On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 05:05:37AM -0400, Christian Schaller wrote: > As a sidenote, in the FESCO notes there was a suggestion to the board to > make a KDE spin blocking once we switch to the Products releases. I > strongly object to this idea. It undermines the whole idea of having the > product focus in the first place and creates a precedent for spins being > more than unofficial community efforts to highlight various technologies > and ideas. There is a proper plan and effort underway now in Fedora with > the 3 products effort, lets stay the course and not water things down to a > level where we are basically back to the bad old days. I think we can solve this by working more on what it means to be "blocking". In the ideal future, I would like to get to the point where nothing is blocking, because: a) We have continuous integration and testing such that we could ship at any time if we decided to. b) we loosen up the ability to ship different parts at different times (even if mostly coordinated), so if some bug or upcoming new feature point in Cloud means we're not ready until a couple of weeks after the base release, it doesn't hold up Workstation. Remixes can already do this _outside_ of the project and we could allow ourselves that luxury inside too. A will take a lot of work, and B will take a lot of coordination and planning, but I think we can eventually get there. In the meantime, I'm okay with drawing the lines of what blocks the release like an asymmetrical puzzle piece rather than a perfect regular polygon. It's a compromise, but I don't think it's "going back to the bad old days" in the larger context. -- Matthew Miller -- Fedora Project -- <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> "Tepid change for the somewhat better!" _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board