On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:56:37PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Talking with jwb on IRC, it seems that the intention of this is not to > > overrule FESCo but to get a Board change of policy on libre software. > > Um... that's oddly worded and not what I thought the result of our > conversation was. I'm honestly not even sure what you mean by "change > of policy on libre software." I don't think anyone is looking to > somehow exclude libre software or promote non-free software over libre > software. > Hmmm... Yeah maybe oddly worded. How about, "the intention of this is not to overrule FESCo but to get a Board change of policy on non-libre software" ? I wrote it the other way thinking of it as being a change to how we balance the scales of promoting libre software vs collaborating with non-libre software but as you say, it's not really about devaluing libre software as much as increasing the value of collaborating with non-libre software sources. > > Taking that as a basis to start this conversation, most of this policy > > should go to FESCo to decide as it came up just a few months ago and > > resulted in this FESCo policy: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Third_Party_Repository_Policy > > Yeah, that was the result of Christian making this this request to > FESCo. So I'm confused why you think it should go _back_ to FESCo, > when FESCo clearly said non-libre software repositories were something > that would need to be discussed by the Board. > Christian's proposal contains more than just a question of whether the Board okays inclusion of pointers to non-libre software. As pointed out in the last paragraph of my previous message, it's also a proposal for the third party repository rules themselves (some of which conflict with FESCo's current policy). I think that portion of the proposal should go to FESCo to decide. But the Board haas to weigh in on the question of whether pointing to non-libre software should be allowed at all before that. Unless what Christian wants is to have the Board overrule the FESCo policy. In which case we should be having a different discussion here. > > > > In FESCo's meeting where we discussed this[1]_, we decided that the Board's > > previously established position(s) of Fedora's relationship to Free Software > > would conflict with our making it easy to search for non-free software. > > Therefore we would need the Board to change that relationship before we > > could consider policy allowing non-libre repositories. > > > > At minimum, we'd probbaly need the Board to simply say that it was okay for > > us to allow searching and pointing to non-free software in the same manner > > as we allow for COPR repos (see the existing FESCo policy for the details). > > As I understand things, this is all that is being requested. I'm sure > Christian will correct me if I've misunderstood. > Cool. Then you and I are on the same page, at least. -Toshio
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