On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 09:52:04AM -0500, Christian Schaller wrote: >> So to summarize the proposal. >> >> * Fedora will continue to not ship non-free software and as part of that will continue to only default to free software. >> * We will add the needed metadata to the Software installer to give our users the freedom to choose to install legally cleared 3rd party software >> * The Working groups will have the ability to work with legal council and technical teams to achieve this goal > > Talking with jwb on IRC, it seems that the intention of this is not to > overrule FESCo but to get a Board change of policy on libre software. Um... that's oddly worded and not what I thought the result of our conversation was. I'm honestly not even sure what you mean by "change of policy on libre software." I don't think anyone is looking to somehow exclude libre software or promote non-free software over libre software. > Taking that as a basis to start this conversation, most of this policy > should go to FESCo to decide as it came up just a few months ago and > resulted in this FESCo policy: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Third_Party_Repository_Policy Yeah, that was the result of Christian making this this request to FESCo. So I'm confused why you think it should go _back_ to FESCo, when FESCo clearly said non-libre software repositories were something that would need to be discussed by the Board. > The Policy covers most of the same things that are covered in the FESCo > policy. There is one part of this proposal that does need a Board decision, > however. That's mentioned in the non-free repositories section of the > Current FESCo policy: > > == Repositories with non-free (libre) software == > > Repositories that contain non-free software are not allowed in any form as > they are contrary to the aims of Fedora. If a product should want to make > these repositories discoverable it would require a change in policy from > the Fedora Board. Please be sure that FESCo is included on any such request > to the Board. > > > In FESCo's meeting where we discussed this[1]_, we decided that the Board's > previously established position(s) of Fedora's relationship to Free Software > would conflict with our making it easy to search for non-free software. > Therefore we would need the Board to change that relationship before we > could consider policy allowing non-libre repositories. > > At minimum, we'd probbaly need the Board to simply say that it was okay for > us to allow searching and pointing to non-free software in the same manner > as we allow for COPR repos (see the existing FESCo policy for the details). As I understand things, this is all that is being requested. I'm sure Christian will correct me if I've misunderstood. josh _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board