Re: Unofficial Fedora Remix being advertised on the project front page

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On 10/16/2013 04:17 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 04:10:07PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 10/16/2013 03:48 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 03:35:57PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:

I noticed that unofficial Fedora remix called Pidora was being
advertised on the projects homepage.
What do you mean by "unofficial"? There's no set of official remixes.
Some people refered to [1] as being remixes since they deviate from
the default one.
Spins are made up entirely of packages that are part of the official 
Fedora repository. Remixes aren't. Spins aren't remixes, official or 
otherwise. The difference is described on the wiki: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Remix#Are_Remixes_and_Spins_different.3F

I never said I was the one that thought they where spins as well as spins are the ones we should be advertising on the front page.
And should we not put effort in presenting our own community
official remixes before we start presenting unofficial ones and
aren't advertising unofficial remixes on our own mailinglists as
well frown upon?
I haven't seen the advertising that you're referring to - have you got a
pointer?
 slot 4 on the projects homepage
I was referring to the mailing lists.

It's on devel post from Hans since you are subscribed there I suggest you look through your archives.
 
Pidora fills a niche that nobody else in the Fedora community
appears to have expressed an interest in (ie, building something that'll
run on ARMv6), so there's a benefit to it existing and us indicating
that it's available to people. Given that it's effectively targetting a
single device, I don't see any real benefit to including it as part of
the general Fedora project, especially since it'd almost inevitably be
restricted to being a secondary architecture.

But really, what's the problem here? People have chosen to build
something interesting on top of Fedora and we've chosen to let people
know it exists.
I use and love the pidora as much as the next guy the issue here is
the act of opening the pandora box of starting to advertise
unofficial remixes on our frontpage.
Please stop using the word "unofficial" here. I see absolutely no 
problem with advertising projects that further the goals of Fedora.

Why it's the word from the pidora community themselves [1]

" "Unofficial Fedora remixes are available for additional targets including the Raspberry Pi"

The "unofficial Fedora remix" for the Raspberry Pi is currently Pidora. This is not supported by the Fedora Project. "




      
At least if we are going to start advertising 3rd party stuff we
should collect money on it to invest into the community in area
which Red Hat cant or is not willing to fund.
I can't imagine Pidora being in any position to pay enough to let us do 
anything interesting.


Nor was I saying it could. Why are you making this about the product being advertised as in the content of the advertisement as opposed to the act of allowing 3rd party project being advertised in the first place and secondly in front of advertising the spins sub community's?

1. http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=47112&p=392864
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