On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 02:04:42PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 18:14 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > Just before the release of Fedora 17 there was a board ticket opened > > by someone in the Fedora Hindu community about the use of beef in the > > naming due to the cow being sacred. They never bothered to bring it up > > long before that even though it had been public for months and what's > > more the number of people that vote for a release name isn't that high > > and the difference in voting between first and second wasn't a huge > > number and if it was such a big problem for the user base it wouldn't > > have taken much effort to gather together a group of people and vote > > against it. From memory the person that opened the ticket didn't even > > care enough to answer a number of questions asked of them. > > He followed up with you guys a number of times. I watched it on the > list. > > I will say I was a supporter of Beefy Miracle, but there were times went > it went much too far. For example, I can't participate in Fedora events > when hot dogs are being handed out, because I can't eat them - I've > stood manning a Fedora booth with the strong smell of hot dogs cooking > right in front of me. (Seriously unpleasant for a vegetarian.) > > It's not offensive IMHO, but it is childish and annoying. Look at the > Fedora 19 proposals so far. The vast majority are juvenile. Prime Rib? > Elastic Horses? Really??? > > > I personally like the current process, but if there is enough > > consensus for it to be changed whether it be to another naming scheme > > or no scheme at all I'm not going to go else where but nobody has > > actually stepped up to run the process and work work with the board to > > actually get things moving forward which is why we're back in having > > this conversation again and nothing has happened. It seems people care > > enough to talk about it on mailing lists but not enough to change the > > process. > > I created and came up with the majority of the suggestions on the > theming process wiki page: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Suggestions_for_Fedora_Codename_Theme > > I have been waiting for months for the board to set up an election for > this as asked for. We got one election which was poorly put together and > led to no solid conclusions since there were only two options, not the > three that had been asked for: "Keep a codename" vs "Don't keep a > codename" instead of "Keep the process as-is", "Get a better one", "No > codenames." > > We're not simply whining about it, a bunch of us have been putting > together these suggestions and looking to the board for guidance for > quite some time now. > AFAIK, the Board has never agreed to an election for the things on that page. From the Board's POV we've been waiting for a followup meeting from the first one. -Toshio
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