Re: Proposal: Add more items to the Fedora's CoC

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David Nalley <david@xxxxxxx> ha scritto:

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:58:22 +0100
Andrea Veri <averi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

it's been some time now that I notice several people being insulted
or provoked while contributing to Fedora.

Sadly, that seems to be the case in any large group... :(

I agree with Kevin, but this aspect could be improved, couldn't it?

One of the possible reasons I see in that is the CoC [1] (Code of
Conduct) missing several important items and most of all the
impossibility to enforce its content when a contributor infringes it.

Well, there is:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_working_group/CoC_Enforcement
which lists out a process to try and resolve conflicts.

A better visibility of the CoC is necessary as just said: sure it's done with this?

While punishing someone (i.e suspending his/her FAS account for
example) is definitely not the way to go in a polite community like
Fedora, I would love writing down together with any other community
member interested a reviewed CoC document.

That said, I would like to point out a few other things:

1. the CoC's location should definitely be a page under the
   fedoraproject.org's domain (i.e fp.org/code-of-conduct), and not
   just a two-line wiki page. The CoC is an important document and
   deserves better publicity and openness.

I agree. It would be nice if it was a easy to find link, well indexed
and not in the wiki burried. ;)
Suggestion: if the Board agrees, file a ticket with websites to add it.

I agree. A link in the fedoraproject.org domain would be nice. I'd appreciate also a remind to the CoC when opening a FAS account. Not by agreeing to it like an agreement, just for information. Why not insert the link to the CoC in a welcome mail?

If this strikes someone as useful just file the ticket with websites -
no need to involve the board (or anyone else aside from the folks who
care about the issue and those who do the work) in decisions about
where to host content that was already blessed by the CWG, the Board,
and subject to public comment for some time.

--David
speaking only for myself.

I think it doesn't help only putting a more visible link. The link should assure the board, that all the contributors read the CoC. Only if this is guaranteed the board is able to resolve definitely a conflict if asked. Obviously, the best solution is to resolve conflicts directly in the single local groups. The CoC should in any case indicate the process for resolving the conflicts mentioned by Andrea in his first post.

This are my personal opinions.
Robert



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