Re: Proposal: Add more items to the Fedora's CoC

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On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:58:22 +0100
Andrea Veri <averi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> it's been some time now that I notice several people being insulted 
> or provoked while contributing to Fedora.

Sadly, that seems to be the case in any large group... :(

> One of the possible reasons I see in that is the CoC [1] (Code of 
> Conduct) missing several important items and most of all the
> impossibility to enforce its content when a contributor infringes it.

Well, there is: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_working_group/CoC_Enforcement
which lists out a process to try and resolve conflicts. 

> While punishing someone (i.e suspending his/her FAS account for 
> example) is definitely not the way to go in a polite community like 
> Fedora, I would love writing down together with any other community 
> member interested a reviewed CoC document.
> 
> That said, I would like to point out a few other things:
> 
> 1. the CoC's location should definitely be a page under the 
>    fedoraproject.org's domain (i.e fp.org/code-of-conduct), and not
>    just a two-line wiki page. The CoC is an important document and 
>    deserves better publicity and openness.

I agree. It would be nice if it was a easy to find link, well indexed
and not in the wiki burried. ;) 
Suggestion: if the Board agrees, file a ticket with websites to add it. 

> 2. any Fedora contributor before starting his/her contributions
> should be prompt to accept the CoC like we currently do with the
> FPCA, I am pretty much sure not everyone out there ever saw the page
> at [1]. 

We could do this if the Board would like, but personally I am against
having people agree to it. Its not an agreement. I do agree that
displaying a link to it and asking the user to read it would be good.
This was suggested when it was setup, but we never got around to it. ;( 

Suggestion: If the Board agrees, file a ticket with the fas project to
add a link to the document. 

>3. as I outlined above punishing someone is not the way go,
> anyway I think taking in front of the Board any of the borderline
> cases should be a must. (i.e if a contributor breaks the rules
> several times and gets warned, an action must be taken to avoid the 
>    repetition of further infringements)

Yeah, and the above enforcement document does suggest this. If you
cannot solve the problem yourself, and you cannot get it solved in the
group/sig where it's happening, then the next step is the Board. 

> Feedback's welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Andrea

Just my 2 cents. ;) 

kevin

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