2011/2/22 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx>: > Going through the governance documents which are generally sound except > for this part [1]. > > * Appoint or remove members of itself > * Chooses its own method of adding and removing members > > This has the potential affect to be misused and effectively takes any > kind of community involvement out of the picture. > > Do we have somewhere available pros for this particular part of the > proposal? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I think each body originally decided election/appointment rules for composing the body. If the body is to be self-directed allowing it to decide who is eligible to run for an elected position, who is eligible to vote in an election, and so on seems natural to me. I am not aware of any case where a body removed a member but there does need to be a contingency for what to do if a member just doesn't contribute at all or is disruptive in an extreme way. So I think removal rules are in place just to have a process to deal with a drastic case if it arose (and it hasn't as far as I know). Appointment/replacement of seats that become open between elections is something that has occurred a small number of times in the past. Occasionally people's lives change and they can't for various reasons complete their term. Since this happens very rarely and since it isn't the end of the world if any of these bodies are short a member for a brief period until another election I don't see anything to worry about here. The bodies have chosen how to deal with members leaving mid-term and those choices, while different, all seem reasonable. FESCo tries to bring in the highest vote getter from the previous election if that person is available for example. While it is possible to dream up situations where these arrangements could be misused it isn't worth spending time dreaming them up. At some point trust needs to exist. They haven't been misused. They aren't likely to ever be misused. If they were misused there is in a short time in the future a chance to have the community express its disapproval at the next election. John _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board