On Friday, December 17, 2010 01:54:47 am Jesse Keating wrote: > On 12/16/10 4:38 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Or, to quote Christoph exactly: > > > > "... because they work for Red Hat. Note that I'm not saying they are > > evil people, it's just in the nature of things they operate behind > > closed doors. It is so much easier to quickly go from one cube to the > > next to make a decision than having to bother with a committee, a > > mailing list or the many voices of the community." > > They just don't know how RHT works then. People that may be 3 cubes > away from each other will prefer to chat on IRC than in person. It's > quicker and involves less interruption. > > I think the real key things here are thus: > > The Desktop team is primarily made up of software developers, who's "day > job" is writing code upstream. As such, they tend to spend most of > their day communicating with the upstream community, in upstream > locations. They are still transparent, if you know where to look. > > The difference being is that they are primarily developers working on > software and focusing on software development issues. This is different > from the other SIGs who are primarily packagers who are focusing on > downstream packaging and bug triaging. I think this fundamental > difference is the reason why the desktop team seems to operate so > "differently" from the rest. That's maybe the problem Christoph points on - I think both is important - to join upstream as much as possible but also do the downstream work - you cannot cut it down. I'm not saying it's easy - where I am upstream - I tend to communicate more upstream, but it has to be reflected in downstream too. Sometimes I feel schizophrenic :) R. PS: KDE SIG are not only maintainers but KDE core devels too ;-) -- Jaroslav ÅeznÃk <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 602 797 774 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board