On 12/15/2010 08:32 PM, MÃirÃn Duffy wrote: > Have you contacted any member of the Fedora design team to ask them if > they read my statement in the logs as you are interpreting it here or if > any of them have taken any other issue with it? Other than reading what Nicu wrote and pointed out no. I both trust and value his input very much he's an individual that is not afraid to speak up and show concerns when there is a reason to do so, so when he does I take notice as I do with several other members in various community's within the project even thou we don't often share the same view on things. > Let's not assume there are problems where there are none, and be > productive about this, okay?:) Remember we're to be excellent to each > other - I think we all appreciate issues being raised where they exist > but the Fedora design team is a very friendly, welcoming, fun, and > respectful group of friends and we don't really fit the picture you are > painting here. I do not think they would agree with your take on this. Perhaps. > So maybe let's get back to the issue at hand? And open a new thread on > this if it is truly an issue worth raising? (Although honestly it's > likely better resolved within the design team itself.) Agreed. The matter if Design needs to have a SIG or not is best resolved by and within the Design community itself. Regarding using an upstream images from one *DE instead of a default well designed overall theme that is produced from ourselves as in within the project, an coherent theme that should be reflected in the "Default" and should also be reflected across other spins unless they choose to opt out from it I vote no. One thing I have noticed from many Fedora users and reviewers is that with every new release they look forward to see what the Design team produces and most of the times if not always they have loved it and the artwork has more or less had good reviews that has reflected well on the project in whole and disappoint them with some kind of new found upstream Gnomes stunt is not the way to go. I think our current Gnome users base will have a enough hard time dealing with and adjusting to Gnome Shell so from my perspective it's best that we continue on the track we are on but offer Gnome upstream to default to what comes out of the Design team factory this release cycle. JBG _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board