On 12/15/2010 04:51 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Some examples of what this means: > > * Desktop SIG defines the default GTK theme and hardcodes the > theme as dependency. > * Desktop SIG defines gnome-icon-theme as the default icon theme > and hardcodes it too. > * These two pull in other gnome packages. It is impossible to > install a desktop without having fedora-gnome-theme or > gnome-icon-theme > * Some more examples of painful dependency bloat: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=depchain > * Removal of hal-storage just a few days before beta freeze. > * Removal of the legacy icon names shortly before beta freeze > resulting in many missing icons. > * Removal of the notification area which and the resulting API > changes in libnotify 0.7.0 breaks all other desktop bug > gnome-shell. > * Change from Nodoka to Clearlooks. Many people objected, after > FPL spoke up the GNOME SIG promised to revisit the decision and > keep us informed. This did not happen. > * Black notifications that looked like a Ubuntu ripp-of. Again > many people objected, but again GNOME SIG did not care. Is this not something FESCO can deal with and act upon? > And now there is > http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2010/12/second-class-citizens.html > Yeah this came as a bit surprise and the Design meeting log are really interesting and bit revealing as well. From the looks of it is time for a Design SIG to emerge to prevent corporate monopolist. > This really makes me wonder if Fedora is a distribution to work on for > people who are not using the one and only true desktop that must not be > named but called "the Fedora desktop" [1]. Yeah that's a question that every contributor in every corner of the project needs to be asking himself at this moment and perhaps a meeting between the contributors and the followers of all spins of every purpose with equal rights *vision* in the community needs to be held and the matter discussed as in what they can do within the project or whether they unite and fork off or find a new home within another distro. JBG _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board