Am Mittwoch, den 01.12.2010, 14:54 -0800 schrieb Adam Williamson: > On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 23:48 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but rel-eng is the only group in Fedora that > > has no instructions how to join in the wiki. For most of the Fedora > > contributors they act as a block box that is constantly working and > > magically every 6 months it a release falls out of it. > > > > IMHO large parts of this is a communication problem. rel-eng fails to > > communicate what they do and how they do it. Just a few examples: > > This has been improved markedly recently: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Release_Engineering_SOPs At least we do know what they do but not how decisions are made and - most important - how to join. Every other group in Fedora has instructions on joining them in the wiki. > > 1. As a spin owner I was not notified in when F12 test composes > > where available for testing. Spins SIG was not notified ether. > > It's actually QA which does notification of this. I've been making sure > to notify the desktop lists when test composes go out since F14. Indeed, and things have improved after that. Thanks for that! > > 2. There was a problem in the F13 LXDE spin that required a respin > > (but no updated packages) of the image. It was not done as > > rel-eng did not give feedback in the corresponding bug report. > > There was a similar case for F14; the re-spin was ultimately not done, > but releng did at least clearly take part in the discussion and explain > why not. Sorry, I meant F14 and we are talking about the same issue then. Look into the bug, there was no final statement from rel-eng, nether if they will do it nor if they wont. > > 3. I have been fighting for the multi desktop DVD and suddenly > > someone brought up to my attention that there is an image at > > http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/mega-dvd-test/ > > Who produced that image? Why didn't he bother to tell me? > > I'm interested in that one too :) Let's see what happens. :) Site note on the multi desktop DVD: The bottle neck is not rel-eng or the board ATM but Red Hat Munich. Our contact there left Red Hat and we have noone to take over the bill, so I cannot place an order for any media in EMEA. Regards, Christoph _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
