On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Christofer C. Bell <christofer.c.bell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > There is no alternative because "let's just ignore the vision > statement and not worry about implementation" is not an option that's > available. > Sure it is. Admittedly it's an ugly option but it's an option. The Fedora Board, as an entity, has no authority over resources other than the Fedora trademarks. What that really means is that it's up to the Board to either inspire/convince the community to follow the vision that they set forward, or discover that the community has a vision it would like to achieve and works to achieve that. If the board 'mandates' something that the community feels is undesirable, it has no way as an entity in and of itself to compel the community to do something. The danger there is that eventually the board could make itself irrelevant because the community ignores it, or equally bad, the community leaves. I should add, I am not saying that Mo's ideas are bad, ill considered, or contrary to the wishes of the community, or that I don't even like them. (I know I have actually worked on accomplishing at least one of them) But Josh's point is well made IMO, in a volunteer organization, unlike that of business or government, those doing the work tend to be the decision makers. If there are vastly divergent views by those who would be doing the work, it's very hard to lead them down that road. Community leadership is less about what we traditionally think of leadership as, and more about maintaining focus, seeing the bigger picture, keeping up morale, and removing roadblocks to contribution. Community members, paid or volunteer, are generally pretty smart about their area of contribution, and motivated to keep moving forward. all on their own. In saying all of this, I am not necessarily saying you crowdsource your vision, or the goals to get there, and honestly I doubt the ability of surveys (does anyone really care what I and the other 12k fedora contributors think the color scheme should be, and more importantly, are we qualified to make it). At the same time, you have to know what Fedora is today, the people who are doing the work. I'd fully expect the Board, and FPL to lay out the vision for Fedora, probably even grab a few contributors who work in specific areas and say 'We have this vision, what step can we take in area $foo to move things further along?' David _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board