On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Greg DeKoenigsberg <gdk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> As noted in our previous minutes[1], the Board was tasked with >> producing a vision statement for updates to Fedora stable releases. >> That vision can be found here: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision >> >> This statement is the result of many Board discussions which have >> taken into consideration issues raised recently in numerous other >> venues such as the devel list. After considering these issues >> carefully, along with other factors such as the broad user base for >> which we should strive[2], the Board feels this vision will best meet >> the needs of our millions of users, including our contributor base. >> >> The Board would like FESCo to read through this vision statement, and >> use it as a basis for implementing changes that will help achieve this >> vision. We look forward to working with FESCo and across the whole >> Fedora Project to continue improving the Fedora distribution. > > I believe that we should build the infrastructure to support these policy > changes first. I think I can speak for the Board when I say that we support tools and policy changes, and that in some cases we can't have one without the other. > As Spot eloquently pointed out, the number of users who are likely to help > promote packages from testing to stable is currently a vanishingly small > number. Don't overgeneralize his statement, though -- we were talking about a specific kind of package there, which is a long tail of what I call "edge" packages. (I maintain several myself.) Till Maas' recent fedora-easy-karma script has increased my participation in the current updates-testing process by severalfold for instance, so we can make some incremental steps here. > We must first solve this problem. When we are satisfied that we've got > tools that significantly increase participation in updates-testing, then > *and only then* should we change the policies around updates-testing. > > Which, to me, means "build improved updates-testing flow for F14, change > policy starting with F15". As with lots of things in Fedora, we can make incremental progress here in the right direction. Paul _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board