2010/2/19 Máirín Duffy <duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 17:35 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote: >> > 1) I am not a guy. >> >> Looks like my english is really too bad. I thought you say that "you >> guys" even with girls involved. > > That kind of language is generally accepted as being exclusionary - > gender-neutral language is much preferred. >> >> > 3) We're talking about a difference between 20+ Fedora folks working >> > full-time on GNOME vs I believe 5 or less for each of the other >> > desktops. As I said, these are not transferrable resources. >> >> Get's me a picture of how awesome our works is. > > You miss the point. No, you're just not able to see my point. >> > Who said any developers were unwanted? >> > >> > What a logical leap! >> >> Not at all. All you get back here is the impression you made. >> But i see. > > I can't see how I possibly could have made that impression without > pent-up angst on the part of the reader being mixed in. Haha. Sorry if i laugh. Pent-up angst? I'm not afraid. Of nothing. > The only people I see saying 'unwanted' 'pushed out' in this thread are > the folks who are on alternate desktop spins side. I don't see that > language being used by anyone else. I certainly didn't use it. I have no > problem with alternative desktops. As a user experience practitioner, > however, I have a big problem with the lack of focus we've historically > had - it confuses potential new users and we lose them to the simplicity > of other distros whose focus is more clear. Beating a dead horse with always the same assumptions. I said it a long time ago, if you hunt for the dumb, you will get the dumb. > That being said, I along with sijis from the websites team personally > invested a *ton* of time and effort into the spins.fedoraproject.org > redesign to make sure our spins look just as sexy as the default > install. But go ahead, keep believing that I would rather the spins go > away. Nice try. I appreciated your work (of course the whole team) as well as everybody else. All the pages are very well and finally modern designed. As i said to Josh Boyer. My english is way too bad to discuss that as it could get discussed. And i'm just a small contributor. Though, i'm not afraid of any name in the community and i just wanted to show you what impression you made. If you like it or not ;) Peace. -- LG Thomas Dubium sapientiae initium _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board