On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 03:58:32PM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 19:39 +0100, Joerg Simon wrote: > > On Wednesday 17 February 2010 19:24:58 inode0 wrote: > > > * An increase in the number of people downloading Fedora could also > > > increase the number of new potential contributors. > > > > What we see in Ambassadors very often is, that People want to belong to the > > Fedora Project and use Fedora Ambassadors as a Starter Group - which we are > > not - and we can see from the mentoring, that we have to reject a lot for > > certain valid reasons > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/ReportTemplate#Mentoring > > > > Maybe we should think about an entry Level FAS Group "Fedora Users" so people > > can join without any barrier and start and belong to something and crow into > > the project? Sure there will be a lot fan-boy's but all these people are also > > potential contributors. > > > > Thanks for working on this important Topic! > > We need to define what a contributor is for purposes of our 'study' here > then. Is a contributor someone who makes 1 single wiki edit and nothing > else? Is a contributor someone who makes 1 single wiki edit and a > wallpaper design? Is a contributor someone who hacks the kernel? Where > on the sliding scale are we cutting off and saying, 'yes you're a > contributor for purposes of this study?' > > No judgement, but it's just an important question you bring up that we'd > need to make a decision on. > > Maybe it's timely I happened to see Ben Shneiderman (see the other > thread I just started on this list about that) talk about getting from > consumer to contributor. He analyzed wikipedia contributors, and I > believe they defined contributors to mean 1 single edit or more. So > their definition of 'contributor' is perhaps more expansive than we > might be interested in. > > Or maybe we could segment contributors, eg. defined in terms of our wiki > which I understand is way oversimplifying: > > - Poke your toe-in-the-water: at least 1 edit up to 25 edits > - Knees-deep: 25 edits to 250 edits > - Waist-deep: 250 edits - 1000 edits > - Shoulders-deep: 1000+ edits > > And see if there's a correlation between download numbers and the growth > of each one of those categories rather than just 'contributors in > general' > > *If* we're interested in that. In some writing he's been doing lately, Greg DeKoenigsberg has offered this definition: A contributor is someone a community actively relies upon for help. Someone who makes a regular contribution of some number of edits per month would fall into this category, while someone who only does one or two changes ever would be less like a contributor and more like a casual participant (I think Greg called this role "collaborator"). -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board