On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 23:55:48 -0400, "Paul W. Frields" <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I think the cardinal rule we'd document for people updating is, "Run > 'yum update foo' to get the latest foo, and be prepared to get a lot > of other stuff in some cases. Don't fight it, fighting makes it > worse." ;-) I tested this and confirmed what you said. So no worries about grabbing something from rawhide as long as you don't use -y, so you can change your mind if lots of stuff gets pulled in. I usually don't try to fight things, but when doing yum upgrades with the kitchen sink installed you can get broken deps that yum can't resolve and then you need to try to work around it. yum does make it easier to find the root problem packages and yum-shell gives you some nicer options for fixing things that I haven't taken full advantage of in the past. I really do like the proposal though. It seems to provide some of the needs that per app branches were proposed for and provides a stabler development system than previous rawhides were. Plus by having updates and updates-testing for the prerelease branch, even if you follow updates-testing, if something bad happens it will be easy to use yum downgrade in most cases to get an earlier version that works. You don't need to paw through koji to find a stable version. (And for things that have a lot of related packages, you don't need to do a bunch of one off downloads.) If this happens I'd stay on the latest prerelease track constantly with my personal machines. It varies between machines, but I currently only run rawhide for about half of a development cycle. _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board