https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Board_meeting_2009-09-17 == Roll call == * Attendees: Bill Nottingham, Tom 'spot' Callaway, John Poelstra, Mike McGrath, Dennis Gilmore, Josh Boyer, Matt Domsch, Christopher Aillon, Paul Frields * Regrets: Dimitris Glezos == Last meeting == https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Board_meeting_2009-09-10 == Agenda == === Brazilian Fedora site === * STATUS: ** Board requested specific changes to accommodate licensing ** Changes have been made by domain owner, minus link to projetofedora.org ** Link intended to show Brazilian community members where to interact with Fedora Ambassadors and other people who are involved with our central community * UPDATE: ** Board issue: OK to drop requirement for link to projetofedora.org? ** Board agrees, OK to drop * ACTION: Paul to send TLA once finalized === Firmware license acceptance === https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Board_meeting_2009-09-10#t10_Sep_12:23 * Firmware license triggers on use, not redistribution * How can we handle informing users of the terms? (Not firstboot, that's too late) * Another Spot issue -- any answer from Legal yet? ** Intel CPU microcode firmware license doesn't trigger on use; AMD does (but it's not in Fedora yet) ** Spot: Emailed counsel to ask about it ** Counsel responds that none of the licenses currently in use (or in consideration) would require us to inform the user in advance * No further action required at this time === Commercial non-software goods license === https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Board_meeting_2009-09-10#t10_Sep_13:25 * Thus far we have given only licenses for non-commercial use, but the need for a Fedora store means we should consider the alternative as well. * Bill to present some possibilities at this meeting * DISCUSSION: ** Bill presented some history and broad categories of situations the Board would find favorable and unfavorable *** Favorable **** Proceeds used to fund Fedora activities or compatible free and open source activities **** Goods sold in conjunction with Fedora software, e.g. media or preloads **** Goods sold together in a store, e.g. a variety of items offered for sale *** Unfavorable **** Goods sold as a small portion of a larger unrelated business **** Goods sold in a way that does not largely benefit the Fedora Project as a whole ** Spot clarified needs: *** Ambassadors getting custom design freebies at shows (custom design) *** Ambassadors getting stock branded stuff from local vendors (stock design) *** Random user buying a Fedora branded item and not having to pay astronomical shipping costs ** Paul: Design team tends to do a good job receiving and addressing logo/design questions ** Bill: Need a preferred vendor in each geo, local Ambassadors work with the vendor to achieve good swag quality/design ** Spot: Vendors may be doing other swag provision, beyond Fedora branded goods; they should be able to set up a Brand Fuel-like store front which the Ambassadors can monitor *** Spot: Handling the money is the hardest part (where does it go, transparency) ** Dennis: Ambassador question: "What do we do with the money we receive back?" ** Spot: First step before setting up a vendor is to go to Finance in Red Hat and ask them to help us figure out a way of doing this. ** Poelstra: Can we do an exchange of goods (free swag for shows, etc.) rather than a monetary exchange? *** Goods exchange is difficult to quantify in a way that's equitable to vendor and Fedora Project; might be more difficult than money and hard to make transparent ** Paul: Max was talking to a potential .eu vendor with the idea of a separate branded Fedora site; all proceeds go into a holding fund at the vendor that discounts goods for Ambassador use; transparency through management by Fedora people ** John: Why are we against someone making money selling Fedora goods if it spreads our brand? *** Paul: Fedora brand identity includes transparency *** Spot: Want to make sure that a portion of the profits are somehow coming back to Fedora (in a legal and manageable way) * Criteria for setting up a vendor relationship to sell non-software goods: *# Transparency to the entire process *# Everything needs to be professional: website, finished goods, good customer service, contract, etc. *# Fedora retains design control over all goods sold *# OPTIONAL: Allow design submissions from community Unanswered question around whether Fedora (can/does/wants to) receive funds * ACTION: Paul to get with Max and Red Hat Finance to get latest guidance, report by Oct. 1 == Next meeting == PROPOSED: 2009-09-24 UTC 1600 * Accepted * Next week: missing Dennis, Matt, and Bill -- Paul W. 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