On Fri, 2007-08-24 at 18:37 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 24.08.2007 17:41, Matt Domsch wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 11:37:45AM -0400, Max Spevack wrote: > >> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >> > >>> On 24.08.2007 16:57, Max Spevack wrote: > >>>> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >>>> [...] > >>>> ELEMENT #2 -- The Fedora Project needs to be open-minded and inclusive > >>>> to new ideas, and alternative implementations of things. > >>> Agreed, but some thing might be tested somewhere outside first. I > >>> think for such cases we should open a kind of "alphaworks" > >>> "experimental kitchen", "Fedora experimental grounds" or something > >>> like that sooner or later. > >> That's one of the things that was talked about surrounding this > >> discussion. In short -- what would it take to have an "experimental" > >> repository available for people to try things that might be considered > >> particularly disruptive, etc to the "mainstream" Fedora processes. > >> What are some of the bigger technical challenges that stop us from just > >> setting something like that up pretty quickly/easily? > > > > With the compose tools open, anyone can compose to their hearts > > content. > > /me wonders if he missed anything > > Sorry, not sure if I can't follow: what do you mean exactly "by compose > tools"? The software we use in our build-stack? koji (+ mock), + bodhi? > > > As for making their own repositories, that's one thing > > fedorapeople.org can assist with. For reasonable sizes of additional > > packages, any Fedora contributor can publish a yum repository on > > fedorapeople.org. > > Sure -- but the real repos for in that testing area likely should IMHO > be maintained similar to our normal repo and with our normal tools. E.g. > build with packages using koji (needs special tag, needs mock configs) > and push with bodi. > > <disclaimer value="I'm a GNOME-user!"><dreaming>Now that most of KDE4 > likely will miss F-8 it for example might be nice to have a > "experimental" area with more space than fedorapeople.org to create a > KDE4 overlay-repo for F8 there. It could server packages from a special > cvs-tag/branch that got build by koji and pushed by bodhi to the special > repo and maintained during the lifetime of F8. Maybe even an additional > FC6-with-KDE4 spin could be hosted there once F8 is out. then those > users that want KDE4 in as soon as it's released could get it there > while normal F8 users get the well-tested old KDE 3.5.X > </dreaming><disclaimer> There are ways, if it is much needed, to increase a quota on fedorapeople -sv _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board