ons, 18 07 2007 kl. 17:50 -0500, skrev Tom "spot" Callaway: > On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 22:07 +0200, David Nielsen wrote: > > ons, 18 07 2007 kl. 15:08 -0500, skrev Tom "spot" Callaway: > > > > > > Last time I checked, the Fluendo codecs were under a BSD license. That's > > > a free software license. > > > > The majority of the codecs are under a completely proprietary license, > > exceptions to that rule are: > > > > * an MIT-licensed mp3 decoder > > * an MPL-licensed MPEG Transport Stream and Program Stream demuxer > > * an MPL-licensed MPEG Transport Stream muxer > > > > Neither one of these comes with a patent grant unless you get the > > official binaries from Fluendo. > > OK, there are two issues then: > > - Do we want codec buddy to help Fedora users install proprietary > software (e.g. codecs from Fluendo under proprietary licenses)? > - Do we want codec buddy to help Fedora users install free software that > we know to be patent encumbered (e.g. codecs from Fluendo under free > licenses, dodging patent issues because they come from Fluendo)? > > I think my answer to the second question is yes, but my answer to the > first question is no. > > I'm not really interested in helping Fluendo sell proprietary software. > That seems utterly hypocritical to me. I see no harm in offering our users the choice, if there is no other legal alternative then Fluendo' codec packs are a decent option. It is not like we are defaulting to shipping them with Fedora, we are merely replacing an ugly error message which users tend to not understand with the option to: A) Pay for the required support from a company that provides a good service, uses the profits to fuel open standard development (Ogg Schrodinger) and invests heavily in developing libraries we rely on (GStreamer). B) Grant the option for people who can legally install the patent encumbered free software implementations to do so (and naturally also the option to commit a bit of civil disobience for the rest of our users). Yum mind you also installs proprietary software, should we make that work only on Fedora approved software as well? In terms of relying on proprietary solutions I am far more worried about the Online Desktop turning my desktop into MySpace+YouTube+Google GNOME as there's no Free alternative.. but that's a whole other debate. - David
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