-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike McGrath wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:35:22 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> >> >> As I don't completely understand that sentence, just to make one >> thing clear, I'm not involved in F7 update releases at all. >> >> Additionally, I'd like to point out that criticism and input, >> which sound negative, should not be seen as nothing else than >> complaints. The project used to be more open to feedback of all >> sorts. In some parts of the Fedora Project there's a growing >> tendency to meet criticism with phrases like "put up or shut up". >> Not desirable. >> >> > I'm a firm believer that talk is cheap and that we need more > workers. For those that aren't familiar with the idiom: > > http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/put+up+or+shut+up > > I don't find Ralf criticisms to be constructive at all. Especially > since many are just saying "I don't like it" and don't even > attempt to suggest a fix much less actually provide a designed fix > much less an actual working patch. Luke has been asking for > feedback and testers for a very long time, I wonder how many he > got. > > -Mike (lurk mode off) I have followed this thread, and several others, since they started when Fedora 7 was released. I don't really belong here, I am not a developer, but I am an end user with an opinion. I agree with what Mike, and several other Fedora/Redhat, people have said. Criticisms made, it appears, to just complain does no good. I think that you are doing a great job. Really. I seldom, if ever, have a problem. I have not ever had a major problem. Most of the problems that I have seen on the fedora-list are Pebcak, or did not read the Release notes, or read the FAQ, or read the known problems/solutions, or a combination of the listed. Or all of the listed for that matter. I have had 'bumps' but never the _disaster_ that so many complain about there. Remember this Mr. Developer/Engineer/Maintainer. There are more people like me than there are of them. And we appreciate your efforts. If I have forgotten to mention anyone one - you count too. Again. Great job. (lurk mode on) - -- David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQFGcbCHrItTyWRhT1YRAtfRAJ9fGUsHOKwDM9mSk7nnQqc5aIBLQgCfbkYp asxLLl1iz77VHrSSB7It0KA= =FAye -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board
