On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 09:31 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > On 3/25/07, Matt Domsch <matt@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > No, that is what 3(c) is for. Only Fedora carries the long-term > > > storage requirements in that case. (And as far as I can see, if you're > > > still distributing FC1, Fedora has no problem with nearly indefinite > > > storage.) > > > > That's the problem. We don't have infinite and indefinite storage, > > Which 'we'? Fedora? or Fedora's mirrors? I guess I assumed the primary > goal here was to reduce demands on mirrors, not on Fedora. > > [If disk for Fedora is really a serious problem, have you looked at > Amazon S3? For something that can't be downloaded very often (like FC1 > source) I'd imagine it would be fairly cheap.] > > > but folks have wanted to honor the GPL 3(b). If it's 3 years after > > the last distribution of the binaries, then we should nuke the > > binaries ASAP and leave the source. The SRPMS dir for FC1 is ~3GB, > > FC2 is ~3GB, FC3 is ~4.5GB, ... However, if mirrors keep carrying > > FC(early) after we've deleted it, and they're using 3(b) and passing > > it on to us, don't we need to carry source until the last mirror > > doesn't? > > My reading of Sec. 3 (IANAL, this is not a legal opinion, etc.) is > that Fedora's liability ends three years after Fedora stops > distributing, and that mirrors are not violating the terms if they > continue to distribute binaries once you've stopped distributing > source. They merely have to distribute your offer, even though it may > no longer be valid. > > GPL v3 may actually be less clear on this particular point than v2; > I'll write an email to my GPL committee about that. > > Luis > > P.S. Why are mirrors still distributing completely unsupported, > security-nightmareish software like FC1? I have a feeling I've asked > this before, but humor me :) mirrors are lazy. Unless upstream deletes it then they'll leave it there. The mirrors just run something like: rsync -avH --delete-after /someplace/ dest/ If it's not deleted on the mirror master it won't be deleted for them. The only time they delete stuff is when their monitoring software tells them they are low on a disk space. -sv _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board
