State a "Freedom Position"?

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Max Spevack wrote:
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Dave Jones wrote:

This problem is much bigger than just wireless too. If we decide to go the crazy debian route of not shipping firmware, we can forget about a ton of storage hardware, a bunch of ethernet drivers, x86 microcode updates, some sound cards and probably a bunch of USB gadgets.

That's not even something we're talking about.

Fedora's "freedom position" has been pretty consistent for a while now. There will always be people who don't like it, and so we'll have one of these threads from time to time, but that doesn't mean we're making any major new decisions.


Max,

We should state unequivocally what this freedom position is, and ordain it as "official".

A freedom position would be based on elements something like:
- Binary-only drivers are completely unacceptable, because they violate the GPL (and thus copyrights), and are ethically wrong. - Rarer situations like the ipw3945 driver with a GPL abusing interface for a binary-only daemon, is unacceptable. - Patented software without a perpetual and irrevocable license to FOSS is unacceptable.
- Only reproducible FOSS licensed software is acceptable.
- Exception: Binary firmware (narrowly defined, redistributable, not in violation of any licenses) is acceptable because it is essentially part of the hardware.

This effectively puts Fedora furthest toward "freedom", even beyond Debian. Only we explicitly differ with the FSF's position on (narrowly defined specific) binary firmware.

Assertions:
1) Redistributable binary-only firmware that operates only within the hardware (perhaps more narrowly defined than this, but the intent is understood here) does not violate any FOSS license or copyrights. 2) Furthermore, because it is part of the hardware's operation itself, there is no ethical problem.

This seems to be the consensus of past discussions within Fedora.

Perhaps I am just unaware, but are there logical arguments against these two assertions?

Warren Togami
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