David Woodhouse wrote:
On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 11:08 -0500, Christopher Blizzard wrote:
1. That the arches with very little market share (ppc, s390, ia64) are
part of the build process and they die on a regular basis.
Really? That ('on a regular basis') isn't my experience, whether you're
talking about build machines dying (except the S390) or whether you're
talking about the occasional compiler bugs or failure to build
individual packages.
Every architecture will suffer occasional build machine outages,
compiler bugs or compile failures in packages -- but I'm certainly not
aware that PowerPC in particular has more than its fair share.
It sounds like you're just saying "Making a distribution is hard. Let's
do less of it".
No, it's "Making a distribution is hard. How do you enable the people
who care to be able to take a more active role in making it happen?"
2. Encouraging development for the community that cares about the
smaller arches. Let's face it, lots of interesting and smart people
spend time on the smaller arches. They are passionate and they care,
and their work almost always encourages the whole of the project. And
you never know when a big project might come along that uses one of
those arches, and you want to be ready when it does.
It's OK. There seems to be a lot of pressure to use Ubuntu in the one
we're thinking of already -- I'm sure they'll cope if they have to drop
Fedora because we mess up the FC7/PPC release with a new process that
isn't ready for production yet :)
I'm hoping we don't screw it up. I think that we wouldn't have talked
about it if we didn't think that what we're doing isn't working today.
I want to feel out how we can actually make things better, not worse.
Please tell us how we can help enable you and the rest of the PPC
community into better partners. It was my hope that by enabling the PPC
folks to work with freedom to walk all over the tree as part of a
specific arch team that they would get more involved, not less. Do you
not think that this is the case? Please tell me if you think I'm wrong
about this.
--Chris
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