Jesse Keating schrieb: > On Friday 03 November 2006 12:24, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> For Ubuntu it seems fine: They started gathering ideas right away when >> they released 6.10 > That's great for them. Was it Canonical folks, or idle chatter from the > Ubuntu community and somebody tossed up a wiki page with wish lists? http://lwn.net/Articles/204961/ From: Mark Shuttleworth <mark-AT-canonical.com> Subject: Planning for Ubuntu 7.04 - the "Feisty Fawn" >>> A) it takes focus off the release we're trying to get out the door, >> Well, I assume at lest some packagers will have their packages in a good >> shape already by FCxT3. Those could work on FC(x+1) internally already. > And when there is no 'internal'? There is always "local" > What sucked this time around was RHEL5. I know. > There are still lots of bugs being found in RHEL5 testing, causing fixes to > be spun there, in FC6 land and in rawhide land. So we didn't really have > idle core developers. Yeah, okay -- but maybe you'd had community interest in things if you would give the community a chance to get participate in time? Tha what we all want afaics. > Next time around, who knows. However next time around > may prove to be a completely different beast anyway, what with the potential > merger. >>> and drowns >>> out already noisy mailing lists that we're trying to gather test feedback >>> with threads-o-doom about what joe user wants to see in the next release, >>> and why bob user thinks the bike shed should be brown. >> Well, we have different lists for it, but don't enforce that. We should >> IMHO. > So you create a new list I didn't propose a new list. You did. > and hope people follow you there, or you cut folks > off and have a psuedo private discussion and then get beat up for not having > it on more 'open' lists (IE where more people are). I'm not convinced that > more lists are the answer. As I said: I didn't propose new lists. fedora-devel was always meant for devel discussions; issues with rawhide where always meant to be discussed on fedora-test-list iirc. We just don't enforce that. We even stopped to communcate that to the people. >>> B) nothing can be shown for the plan for a good long while as rawhide >>> can't start taking these new plans >> We could start opening up rawhide a bit earlier (e.g. when the final FCx >> was build). But yes, I agree here round about. > maybe, however that would break folks currently on rawhide or Test3 releases > waiting for the final to 'upgrade'. Tradeoff at the end user's expense. Agreed. >>> C) folks doing the planning are usually pretty frazzled trying to get >>> Test3 out and then cleaning up for the final >> Agreed. That's btw one of the reasons why I started this thread: We IMHO >> need more of those folks "doing the planning and finishing the release". > Unfortunately most of those that can do something with the planning are the > same ones doing the releasing. I don't think more people is the answer here > either, rather better timing of the planning vs the releasing. Well, yes, maybe that's a solution, too. Cu thl _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board-readonly mailing list fedora-advisory-board-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board-readonly
