I would also suggest that most large deployments would be setup this way, so there is potential to miss huge numbers. Cheers, Rob Garth. On 10/6/06, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 10/5/06, Rob Garth <rgarth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I agree with Josh. But I agree with Max and Greg we need metrics now. > > I have over 500 workstations running Fedora. They all run through a > proxy, so the IP method would not work. I run my own local yum > mirrors, and only one of the workstations talk to even my own yum > servers, and it doesn't look for mirrors, so the yum method would not > work. But then as most of my machines are built from a single image, a > firstboot method would not work anyway. > In cases like this, the only way that this would work is if the mirror system reported upstream (e.g. RHN satellite). There will always be sites like this, the only way I could see getting semi-accurate numbers on this would be a self-reporting method that would have to be non-anonymous and have a larger error bar when adding its numbers put into it. > I think the discussion of how to report metrics correctly needs to > wait for another day, and for the moment Fedora needs to use yum, and > if possible the firefox metric as well. > I guess another question management from above AND/OR FAB has to answer is how correct they need the numbers to be. At the moment the error range seems to be +/- 2 orders of magnitude, and needs to be reduced down to a linear function like +/- 10E4 systems. Knowing that FAB cares only for counts within say 10E4 systems means that you can use certain tools and not care about say trying to figure out the serial numbers of every system installed behind a firewall. -- Stephen J Smoogen. -- CSIRT/Linux System Administrator How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice" _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board
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