On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > I don't believe we can. In my opinion, we need *urgently* to start > somewhere. It's the difference between building a funding plan now and > building it 6-9 months from now. This paragraph sums up my concern best. Greg did a superb job of elaborating the issues, so I won't prat on about it, but he is 100% correct when he says that any significant Fedora funding decisions require stronger metrics than we have been able to provide. Each day that we don't change that is a day in which we don't do anything to help ourselves. So from a high level I can say something like "I don't want us to ship fc6 without having some way to track how many people are actually *using* fc6". The firefox idea was a good way to track "Desktop" users -- folks who have installed X. Basically just counting unique IP addresses via yum is a good way to track many different types of installations, basically people who are updating regardless of their package set. Those are two very different metrics. But at this point I'd be happy with either. It just needs to be easily reportable. And I think it would be great if it were publicly-reported. Even if we just have some little piece of code somewhere that counts up logs for unique IP hits and posts that number to as webpage. If we're watching yum, that even tell us which version of Fedora is producing the hits, since they will go to a different repo. I'd be perfectly fine with that. In the interest of having this decision be made quickly (but also on this list) I nominate Seth, Karsten, Bob Jensen, and Mike McGrath to make the call of what they want to do. Let's just get *something* for fc6. And then we can do it "right" -- firstboot, survey, etc. after that. --Max -- Max Spevack + http://spevack.org + gpg key -- http://spevack.org/max.asc + fingerprint -- CD52 5E72 369B B00D 9E9A 773E 2FDB CB46 5A17 CF21 _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board-readonly mailing list fedora-advisory-board-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board-readonly
