On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Greg DeKoenigsberg schrieb: > > On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >> Further: How could Red Hat help? *Red Hat should ask for help in > >> situations like this!* There are a lot of people around in > >> Extras/Fedora-land that are willing to help in situations like this, but > >> probably nobody is going to step up without a external trigger. We are > >> used to @redhat-maintainers that take care of their packages on their own. > > +1. > > So let's ask this question: why are we not making more progress on the > > "community maintainers working on core" dilemma? > > > > The answer, from where I sit: we're bogged down in technical details. > > Agreed. > > [...] > > The next question, then: what processes can we put in place that will > > allow trusted community developers to submit patches in a "fast track" > > way, such that the official RH maintainer can simply take a quick look, > > rebuild, and release? > > My preferred variant: > > 1. community developer commits his changes to a version control system > somewhere OK. So let's say, for the sake of argument, we create a CVS mirror called "fedora-core-community" or some such, out on cvs.fedora.redhat.com. This immediately brings us to tricky question #1: How do we sync from fedora-core to fedora-core-community, and when? This question, or some variant of it, is what has led us into the current endless technical debate. What's wrong with someone sending a patch to bugzilla saying "this is a patch to version foo-13.1.77"? It may not be as "correct", but it seems simpler to me. It's something we could do *today* with almost no further discussion. > 2. he sends some kind of pull request to the red hat maintainer > 3. red hat maintainer looks at the changes > 3a) he doesn't like them -- he mails the community maintainer some > reasons why he doesn't like them > 3b) he likes them -- he pulls them and queues build > > > It could be as simple as adding a keyword to bugzilla. > > "bugzilla != simple" for a lot of people. Not even for people who are likely to be submitting patches? Seems like a fairly select and clueful bunch. --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board-readonly mailing list fedora-advisory-board-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board-readonly