On Tue, 9 May 2006, Rex Dieter wrote: > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > /me is late in the discussion -- and it seems everything important is > > already said. > > > > Just to make sure: I also don't like the idea of having kernels in > > extras or adding a CCRMA-Kernel to core. What I fear most besides the > > maintenance nightmare: openVZ, vserver, swsusp2, reiser4 <insert 10 > > other projects> would probably want their own Fedora-Kernel in that > > case, too. And I don't think we really want that ;-) > > As I see it, the bigger picture here is whether to resurrect > Alternatives or not. > > If so, the kernel can be treated just like any other alternative (ie, > core-replacing pkg). As long as someone steps up to maintain it, I have > no problem with alternative kernels. As a corollary, I'd venture the > likelihood of volunteers to be kernel maintainers to be small. > > Personally, I'm in favor of the general idea of Alternatives, but if > it's going to happen, it will require a lot of time, care and feeding, > having its own set of complications and a need for clear standards and > rules. And these, of course, are the reasons we ditched it in the first place. That was before we had a lot of the pieces we have now, though. We're probably in a better place to do it now... if enough people see the value. I think they probably would -- but working out sane policy will be quite a challenge, I think. Moreover, I'm not sure I see "Alternatives" as a single repo. Rather, I see "Alternatives" as a way to label various repos. Perhaps a "Fedora Alternatives" repo is any repo that: a) Meets the general criteria for Fedora from a freedom perspective; b) Replaces packages in Core or Extras; c) Together with Core and Extras, defines a consistent package universe. I think that trying to reconcile separate "Alternatives" repos to one another would be complete insanity -- but a responsible Alternative repo manager could probably maintain 10 or 20 packages in a consistent way. The biggest problem I see is attribution of bugs that pop up in Alternatives-based installs. That could be a nightmare. --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors -------------------------------------------------------------