Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > On Mon, 17 Apr 2006, Elliot Lee wrote: > > >>The way that worked well for RHL was separating things into a >>redhat-announce-list that received just regular announcements, and >>redhat-watch-list that received security notices. > > > +1 to fedora-watch-list for updates to all Fedora versions. Have a question and a few comments. Why do we need to do this? Split up the Fedora-Announce list? I haven't heard complaints from the general user community about there being announcements mixed in with package updates. The idea may have merits, might it be a good idea to run this by our peers in the Fedora community? Could there be downstream consequences to changing the lists and/or adding a new one? Could there be end users or corporate users or security-related mailing lists or websites that will be affected if all of a sudden Fedora-Announce-List is bereft of software update announcements? Regarding Fedora Announcements (or Fedora *Package* Announcements): I find that sometimes the announcements of package updates have ended up not being as well-maintained in the archives that are kept as I would like. In my opinion, it is very important to have some formal repository where end-users and developers can go to find all the info on updates for package xyz for distro X. But the Fedora Project does not (yet) offer some kind of formal web-based or RSS-based repository for package update information comparable to Red Hat Network's <http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/> web-pages for Red Hat Enterprise Linux. We have instead - list archives. Which work, to a point. Sometimes these list archives end up borked. For example, the gzipped mbox archive file for Fedora Announce List, <http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2006-March.txt.gz>, is missing everything before March 22nd. The other day, I needed that information: So I had to go out to an externally-maintained place, gmane.org, to retrieve those missing announcements. (Yes, I know, I should be subscribed there....) The point is this: However the Fedora lists are organized, they need to be well-maintained if they are to be a reliable record of Fedora software activity for end users who come to install Fedora long after a distro has been released, so they'll know what updates are available and why they've been updated from the CD's they bought. This is the *only* record some of us have. Thanks for considering these random thoughts. Regards, David Eisenstein of Fedora Legacy