We're not talking about programming language, we're talking about configuration.On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 09:51:47AM +1000, Mike MacCana wrote: > Admins don't like XML because vi isn't an XML editor. It's the > equivalent of Microsoft Word, treating presentation and content like > they're the same thing. Also, try converting a short example from your favorite programming language into XML to see how parsing is important.
You haven't stated why.> This is why I mentioned creating an editor earlier. There's no reason > why you need to see XML when you edit it. shouldn't be able to say 'jump > to next subsection, copy this object, paste it three times' in the same > way we do with lines and paragraphs in vi. It's plainly ridiculous to create a whole new editor just for editing a particular form of file.
vi already does a terrible job of editing config files, as I've previously mentioned. It's designed for words and paragraphs, mean mean nothing in config files (unless you happen to practively edit your config files so they can be edited neatly in vi, which itself is ridiculous, although common).This editor you're going to write is going to be better than vi & emacs?
A command line version of gconfig-editor with keybindings would already crap all over presentation-based editors like vi.
A simple test:
'Delete 3 (shares|virtualhosts|domains'
In vi this data would either be treated as a series of lines, or re-arranged, if the format allows, so that presentation matches content and that these items are sorted into paragraphs.
In vix, you'd type a key for delete, the number 3, and a third key to tell it section (defined as an object of the level where the cursor is).
> Maybe after thousands of programmers have worked on it for > 20 years.
I think you're too blinded by the last 20 years to see what's wrong with presentation-based tools.
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