Re: What to do about old packages in epel8-playground

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On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 18:35, Dave Dykstra <dwd@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> It seems to be worse than that.  When I tried around 2 weeks ago,
> building a version in epel8-playground blocked building the same version
> in epel8.
>     https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8925
> I did similar builds earlier and didn't have the problem.
>

There was a problem in the build system when you tried this. I have
replied to the ticket as it should be cleared up now and I thought all
tickets had been answered but I missed this one.

> I have packages.cfg that targets epel8 in the epel8 git branch and
> epel8-playground in the epel8-playground branch and haven't touched
> them.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 01:57:13PM -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> > On 11/3/19 12:47 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 08:06:07AM -0700, Troy Dawson wrote:
> > > > For KDE, I built all the packages in epel8-playground.  At the time,
> > > > it seemed like the right thing to do.  (Whether it was or not is
> > > > another discussion).  I also built several packages in playground that
> > > > were not part of KDE, but were build and runtime dependencies.
> > > >
> > > > Those non-KDE packages, I have been trying to get built on regular
> > > > epel8 by their normal maintainers.  Or building myself if the normal
> > > > maintainer don't want to support epel8.
> > > >
> > > > Question:  What do I do about those package currently in -playground,
> > > > that just got built in regular epel8?
> > > > The versions may, or may not, be the same.
> > > >
> > > > A related question, but not necessarily for this set of packages.
> > > > What is our plan in a year or two, if a package clearly is maintained
> > > > in epel8, but abandoned in epel8-playground?
> > >
> > > Right, so this is what Kanarip was talking about the other day on IRC.
> > >
> > > Consider the case:
> > >
> > > - I have foo-1.0-1 in epel8 and epel8-playground
> > > - I want to play with foo-2.0 in playground, so I tweak packages.cfg and
> > >    build it in playground.
> > > - Later I decide its stable so I build foo-2.0-1 in epel8.
> > > - A update comes out to 2.1, so I build foo-2.1-1 in epel8, but I didn't
> > >    put the packages.cfg back and the version in epel8-playground is now
> > >    foo-2.0-1 still.
> > > - I later try and build bar-2.0 in epel8-playground, and it builds
> > >    against foo-2.0-1 instead of foo-2.1
> > >
> > > I guess the expectation is that the maintainer should put the
> > > packages.cfg back in place when merging back to epel8, but I could see
> > > this getting forgotten.
> > >
> > > So, perhaps the best way forward here is some reporting?
> > >
> > > ie, check upgrade path between all epel8 and epel8-playground packages.
> > > The playgound ones should always upgrade the epel8 one.
> > >
> > > kevin
> >
> > I guess I don't see why anyone needs to muck with packages.cfg.  If you want
> > to build something for epel8-playground, just build it from the
> > epel8-playground branch.
> >
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