Re: nodejs update

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On 08/11/2016 05:16 AM, Zuzana Svetlikova wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> As some of you may know, nodejs package that is present in
> EPEL is pretty outdated. The current v0.10 that we have will
> go EOL in October and npm (package manager) is already not
> maintained.
> 
> Currently, upstreams' plan is to have two versions of Long
> Term Support (LTS) at once, one in active development and one
> in maintenance mode.
> Currently active is v4, which is switching to maintenance in
> April and v6 which is switching to LTS in October.
> This is also reason why we would like to skip v4, although
> both will get security updates. Nodejs v6 also comes with
> newer npm and v8 (which might best be bundled, as it is in
> Fedora and Software Collections) (v8 might concern ruby and
> database maintainers, but old v8 package still remains in
> the repo).
> 
> There was also an idea to have both LTS versions in repo,
> but we're not quite sure, how we'd do it and if it's even a
> good idea.
> 
> Also, another thing is, if it is worth of updating every year
> to new LTS or update only after the current one goes EOL.
> According to guidelines, I'd say it's the latter, but it's
> not exactly how node development works and some feedback from
> users on this would be nice, because I have none.
> 
> 
> tl;dr Need to update nodejs, but can't decide if v4 or v6,
> v4: will update sooner, shorter support (2018-04-01)
> v6: longer support (2019-04-01), *might* break more things,
>     won't be in stable sooner than mid-October if everything
>     goes well

FYI, I think this tl;dr missed explaining why v6 won't be in stable until
mid-October. What Zuzana and I discussed on another list is that the Node.js v6
schedule has it going into LTS mode on the same day that 0.10.x reaches EOL.
However, v6 is already out and available. The major thing that changes at that
point is just that from then on, they commit to adding no more major features
(as I understand it). This is the best moment for us to switch over to it.

However, in the meantime we will probably want to be carrying 6.x in
updates-testing for at least a month prior to declaring it stable (with
autokarma disabled) with wide announcements about the impending upgrade. This
will be safe to do since Node.js 6.x has already reached a point where no
backwards-incompatible changes are allowed in, so we can start the migration
process early.


> Also need feedback from users.
> 
> 
> I hope I didn't forget anything important.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Zuzka
> Node.js SIG
> 


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