Re: Possible deprecation/removal of Initial Setup from Fedora

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On Mon, 2023-11-27 at 14:12 +0100, mkolman@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> On Fri, 2023-11-24 at 15:15 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2023-11-21 at 13:34 +0100, Jiri Konecny wrote:
> > > Hello everyone,
> > > 
> > > Is Anaconda Initial Setup important for your project or workflow?
> > > What 
> > > functionality is absolutely necessary for you? Do you use the text
> > > mode 
> > > or the graphical mode? Are you aware of any alternatives? Is there 
> > > anything that would prevent you from migrating to one of the
> > > proposed 
> > > alternatives? Also please feel free to share this mail to any
> > > relevant 
> > > groups.
> > 
> > In addition to the other uses identified: if you do a KDE install and
> > set the root password but do not create a user account, i-s will run
> > on
> > first boot and allow (not sure if it requires) user creation. This is
> > probably the case for other non-GNOME desktops too (GNOME uses its
> > own
> > gnome-initial-setup).
> Sure, but is this really necessary on those images ? If it only
> triggers if no user account is present only only provides user
> creation, what about enforcing user creation at installation time
> instead ? 
> 
> That would simplify the whole thing, as there would be less scenarios
> to test/debug/go wrong.

The problem, as always, is different use cases. We want to very
strongly encourage people to create a user before logging in on KDE
installs, as we really don't want people using KDE as root. But for a
small headless install, someone might want to operate as root without a
user account.

Workstation has sorted this out by disabling user/root spokes in the
installer entirely and having its own g-i-s which requires creation of
an admin user, but we don't have anything like that in place for KDE
currently. So we have to try and manage both KDE and e.g. a minimal or
Server install as best we can, using essentially the same workflows.

If someone wants to do some customization for KDE, of course, that
could help.
-- 
Adam Williamson (he/him/his)
Fedora QA
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