Re: expectations for Fedora 18-Alpha-TC3

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> How much of Fedora 18-Alpha-TC3 netinst.iso should I expect to work?
> It booted from DVD on bare metal and brought up graphics, but after that
> I encountered many problems.

The minimum is
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria.

> Media_check did not run, despite being included in the default selection
> on the boot screen ("verify source...").

I don't know that this has actually been tested yet.  I've tested the
graphical media check button on the installation source spoke, and that
has worked in the past.

> <Tab> did not move the focus to the next graphical button on the Choose
> Language screen.

Tab works as I expect it both on the initial welcome language screen, as
well as the language spoke off the first hub.  All UI elements are
focusable.

> There was no progress indicator for Installation Source, Software Selection
> (downloading repo info, checking dependencies), or Installation Destination
> (examining storage devices).

Right, progress indicators are really hard to do and are a never-ending
source of bugs.  They're especially hard to do for things that involve
the network.  Additionally, feedback we've gotten in the past says we
have way too many popups.

So the idea here is that you can go do other stuff while long-running
tasks work themselves out which makes progress indicators a little less
helpful.

> The left box (Desktop) of Installation type (Base, GNOME, KDE, LXDE,
> Sugar, XFCE) was unclear.  Is it a radio-button list (select only one)
> but without the buttons?  The box abuts the left margin, and looks like
> something has been cut off on the left.

It's a radio button list.  This is perhaps a little unclear.  I'll talk
to mizmo about adding radio buttons.

By "the box abuts the left margin", you just mean that it looks odd
without any sort of button/box next to it, right?  If you mean something
else, can you attach a screenshot?

> The right box (Addons) was
> hard to track.  There should be a separate list of current selections.

This screen is unfinished.  When it's finished, I think it will be a
little easier to keep track of.

> There should be an option to hide/display the descriptions (with the
> names always displayed.)  It should be possible to search by regex.
> Display of dependencies should be available.

Why?  No one has ever asked for these sorts of things before, and
they'd have to have pretty good justifications.

> Installation Destination gave only the barest info: disk manufacturer
> and model, with gross capacity.  There was no connection information
> (sda, sdb, ...; pci-...-scsi-...; usbN; etc.).

We've not gotten much feedback asking for this.  USB devices should be
able to be shown with a different icon, but we've not done that yet.

> Horizontal scrolling sucks;
> my box has 5 drives, and I want to see them all at once.

There is a limit to how much can be displayed at once.  I'm sure there
are people out there with 20 drives who want to see them all at once.
You can use the disk shopping cart (button on the bottom left) to see
what all you've got selected at once, though.

Horizontal scrolling - does the box not scroll with the keyboard?  We've
had this problem elsewhere and if that's happening, I should be able to
fix it.

> Sometimes I have multiple drives of the same make and model,
> so I need to see the serial numbers, too.

The serial number is available if you hover the mouse.

> I want to see the volume label type (MSDOS, GPT, Apple, ...),
> plus the partitions, size, label, filesystem type, used space,
> unused space, last mount point: everything that gparted displays.

We might be able to work used and unused space in somehow (original
mockups had little pie chart things for this), but some of the rest is
not ever going to make it into a UI.

> There was no message "No LVM2 structures were found" which is
> required in order to increase my confidence and help detect errors.

What?

- Chris

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