Re: Draft proposal for using full anaconda as the default Fedora download

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2011/1/21 Máirín Duffy <duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Hi,
>
> After some discussion in #anaconda earlier this week I put together a
> proposal for using a full anaconda environment as the default
> installation method for Fedora rather than the current live installation
> environment. Before I sent this to fedora-devel (which I'm admittedly
> terrified of) I was hoping you folks might be willing to look over it
> below and sanity-check it for me?
>
> The next step I think is maybe to have some discussion on fedora-devel
> and propose it to FESCo.
>
> I really appreciate any feedback!
>
> Thanks,
> ~m
>
> ---
>
> PROPOSAL:
> Use full installer environment as default Fedora install method
>
> Currently (and since ~Fedora 12) the default media promoted for
> installation of Fedora both via our website at fedoraproject.org and at
> conferences and other events is the Desktop Live Media ISO, delivered
> via pressed optical media at events, and typically delivered via
> home-burned optical media or live usb media created via dd,
> livecd-creator on the command line, or the Live USB Creator GUI (the
> latter the most popular for non-Linux systems.)

I don't think this is quite a fair representation of the situation
when it comes to pressed media distributed at events. We don't promote
either as a "default" method. We have always produced far more
non-live media for events, usually it outnumbers all the live media by
2 to 1 in North America. While some people do install from the live
media we really promote it as an easy way to try Fedora out, not as a
preferred way to install it.

> Live Media affords some clear advantages over traditional installers,
> primarily in its ability to be used via USB sticks as optical drives are
> less ubiquitous in laptops and its singularity as one image you can
> try-before-you-buy to test out drivers, rescue machines, and use as a
> full installer. It also affords a gee-whiz factor.
>
> However, there are some serious concerns about the stability and overall
> user experience in promoting live media as the primary installation
> method of Fedora. There is also a larger concern about the future
> direction and maintenance of the spins project. Creating and maintaining
> usable live media is not a trivial task and many of our spins
> maintainers have understandably burnt out. Reconsidering how we deliver
> installation of Fedora to our end users may offer an opportunity to help
> this situation.

Again, we do not promote it now as the primary installation method.
>From the perspective of someone who has handed out such media at
events, if the install to hard drive option on the live media is
causing issues my suggestion is to remove it. The live media has great
value without it - it seems to be almost an afterthought anyway.

John

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