Martin Gracik <mgracik@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 07:37 -0800, Steve Allen wrote: > > Martin Gracik <mgracik@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I don't think it works like this all the time. For example, you have > > > SELinux enabled by default in Fedora. You also have firewall enabled by > > > default. Enabling those tools by default is a policy Fedora is > > > enforcing, and you as a user (or organization) can disable it manually. > > > This is similar to the root account situation. > > > > I disagree. They may be on by default, but I can turn them off in the > > installer. So they're not enforced. > > > > Not allowing a root password to be set but rather requiring a user account > > to be created, that's enforced. > > > > Steve > > > > Can we please keep this on the mailing list? My apologies. I intended to, but wasn't watching where my replies were going. > I'm not 100% sure now, but I think, in older versions, you could turn > them off after boot in firstboot, not during the installation. That's > not possible in F14 anymore at all. I just got done installing F14. You're right, that wasn't an option during the install. Bummer. More work for me. > We could still provide a way of skipping the user creation and setting > root password in kickstart installations. This way also vendors > preinstalling the OS for their customers could leave the user creation > for the actual users in firstboot. > > My concern now is just the GUI installation. During GUI install, you > cannot disable SELinux or firewall. And I think it would be better to > have a normal user creation instead of setting root password in the GUI > screen as well. I don't like it that options are being taken away. First it was the "install everything" option. Now it's a royal PITA to do the equivalent. Now the selinux and firewall options have gone away. Next it'll be the root password. You may color me a grouchy old man, but I like having the flexibility to _install_ things the way I want, rather than having to come back and _fix_ them after the install. With that, I'm gone for the holiday. Have a happy turkey day. Thanks for listening. Steve -- Steven R. Allen - Linux Admin Weenie Unix sysadmin: Linux, IRIX, NetBSD, OS X, Solaris, HP/UX, CX/UX Phone: 206-544-0910 M/S: 4J-06 _______________________________________________ Anaconda-devel-list mailing list Anaconda-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/anaconda-devel-list
