Greetings folks, Chris and I will be hosting a Test Day to help gather additional community input on the proposed text-mode changes. Come join us ... https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-January/msg00442.html Thanks, James On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 13:31 -0500, Chris Lumens wrote: > As some of you may know, I've been working on a major simplification of > the text mode installer. If this is the first time you've heard this, > let me briefly outline the case for why I'm doing this. > > - Text mode and graphical mode are completely separate codebases as far > as the interface is concerned. We don't have some magic interface > language that can display under both modes. What this means is that > anything we add to the graphical mode needs to be coded up again a > second time for text mode. > > - Text mode only supports a subset of the graphical mode's features. > For instance, you can't do LVM in text mode. Nor can you do encrypted > filesystems, resizable filesystems, add repos, or edit repos. This > situation is only going to get worse over time. Why is this the case? > First, because it involves duplicating all the tedious work of writing > a UI and no one wants to do that. Second, the screen real estate on > the console is quite limited and things like LVM just don't fit in the > space available. > > - We already have alternate install modes available. You can do > automatic installs via kickstart, or you can use VNC. > > - If the graphical installer doesn't work, the fix is not to have a > completely different path to go down. The fix is to fix graphical > installs. Having said this, we still do have work arounds possible. > You can always add xdriver=vesa as a boot parameter if the normal driver > for your card doesn't work under X. My latest patch to the list makes > it more obvious that you can do this. > > So what have I done? What do I mean by "simplifying text mode"? > > - Text mode is not going away, contrary to what you might have heard. > > - I have removed many of the more complicated parts of the UI, turning > text mode into the truly minimal install experience that a lot of > people have asked for. You get a package set that's small but still > able to install updates and new packages. You get the initial > partitioning screen (choose your disks and handwaving layout) but not > the second screen. > > - We more strongly suggest VNC or xdriver=vesa, but text is still there > if you want and still as a fallback should the graphical installer > fail to start. Maybe that last bit should be changed. > > Okay that wasn't very brief but this is a controversial thing to do, so > it probably required more explanation. Anyway I've put together an > updates image that is my initial run through at simplifying text mode. > If you'd like to give it a try, simply add the following parameters to > the boot command line: > > updates=http://clumens.fedorapeople.org/notext.img text > > Comments? Concerns? Suggestions? > > - Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Anaconda-devel-list mailing list > Anaconda-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/anaconda-devel-list -- ========================================== James Laska -- jlaska@xxxxxxxxxx Quality Engineering -- Red Hat, Inc. ==========================================
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