On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, R P Herrold wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, John wrote: > > > > Yes, you're probably right. Leave it to Red Hat to get rid of a perfectly > > > good numbering scheme. I've been using RHL since 3.0.3 though so I guess > > > > Ditto. I've decided RH has left me, and I'm moving to Debian. > > hmmm -- you guys would skip watching a movie, simply because > the leading lady tinted her hair, as well, I'd guess <grin> It's a bit deeper than that. As a user, I couldn't figure how to do things I'd been doing for years. I'd have had terrible trouble inflicting the new menus on Mrs S. And there's this: Errata Maintenance Policy 5+ Years 1 Year Security and bug fixes 3 years after next release 6 months after next release See http://www.redhat.com/software/whichlinux.html. There isn't a Red Hat Linux any more that suits me. > > It's just a number. Respect RH, instead, for making it clear > that binary compatability is _not_ clean and RHL 9 is a big > step from RHL 8 with the NPTL changes. Binary compatability is not a great concern to me. Having fixes for a decent amount of time is, not having the UI borked is. I don't have any use for the support offerings RH has. > > Install with --nodeps;-) > > Anyone who does so without being able to predict the effects, That's why the "rpm -Va --root." It identifies broken deps so you can fix them. > has the pleasure of figuring out why something seems hosed > later. It turns out not to be necessary -- but as John has > been saying for six month's on Red Hat sponsored lists about > Red Hat releases and tools, that he is moving to Debian, I > guess it doesn't matter <gentle smile>. It matters to me that the advice I offer is as sound as I can make it. My first suggestion remains (or would, except for the NPTL changes of which I know next to nothing) a sound way to achieve the ability to build for RHL 9 while running RHL ^9. If you want to get there w/o using Anaconda, then 'rpm --nodeps' and 'rpm -Va' will get you there, and faster than not using --nodeps. As I pointed out, this has a possible problem with rpm, and I've just hit on another possible path;-) Presumably there's a sysadmin CD based on RHL 9 at ftp.redhat.de, just as there has been for several past releases. Take this, use the tar/untar trick (or similar) to get it onto the hard disk. It still leaves you to deal with the NPTL changes: I've no idea how much of a problem this represents. If you can't get round that, then it's difficult to use RHL 7.x to build for RHL 9. -- Please, reply only to the list. Join the "Linux Support by Small Businesses" list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
