PS: Maybe you don't see the menu bar of hdspmixer. When using a top panel, it could happen, that hdspmixer opens with the menu bar hidden under the top panel. I'm using a script to automagically move the window. Almost all, if not all window managers allow to move the window by holding the Alt-key and left mouse button with the mouse cursor anywhere inside the window. _______________________________________________ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user