Dear Chris,
Thanks for your answer and for taking interest!
On dim., 2013-12-15 at 09:56 -0800, chris hermansen wrote:
> Rutger et all,
>
> On Dec 15, 2013 9:38 AM, "Rutger Noot" <rutger.noot@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have difficulties with the TEAC UD-H01 usb dac. Playback is fine
> in 16
> > bit mode (even at sample rates up to 192kHz), but in 24 bit mode
> there
> > is an incredible amount of jitter (continuous clicking) at any
> sample
> > rate above 48kHz. Admittedly, there should be little (if any)
> audible
> > difference passing from 16 to 24 bits, but still it should work.
> >
> > After discovering this by playing music through rhythmbox and
> > pulseaudio, I have tested by converting a wav-file to different
>
> Rhythmbox uses Pulse as far as I know, and Pulse resamples again
> AFAIK. At least I have never been able to convince Pulse to "leave
> things alone". Pulse then passes the resampled stuff to Alsa.
>
That's also what I found. If I ask pulse to use S16_LE things are OK, but
setting to S24_LE causes all those artefacts. Anyway, for further
testing, rhythmbox & pulse are a bad choice.
> Players that I know that will play directly to Alsa: mpd, QuodLibet,
> Guayadeque.
>
> > combinations of sample-size/sample-rates and playing directly
> through
> > aplay. So the problem seems to come from the alsa driver. Any hints
> on
> > what to try?
> >
> > PS using kernel 3.11.10 on fedora 18.
>
> With aplay have you tried using the plughw output device associated
> with the Teac unit?
>
> You can figure that out with "aplay -l" and/or "aplay -L".
I tried with hw:1,0 and (just now) with plughw:1,0 The result is the
same. Changing USB cables didn't help either.
>
> Do you have other USB cables to try?
>
> If none of those help you need to send some diagnostic info... The two
> aplay outputs above and I guess the output of "lsusb".
>
Some diagnostics output is given below.
Thanks again,
Rutger.
(I am talking about card 1)
==============
$ aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: 92HD90BXX Analog [92HD90BXX Analog]
Subdevices: 0/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: DEVICE [TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
==========================
$ aplay -L
null
Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
pulse
PulseAudio Sound Server
default
Default ALSA Output (currently PulseAudio Sound Server)
sysdefault:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, 92HD90BXX Analog
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, 92HD90BXX Analog
Front speakers
surround40:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, 92HD90BXX Analog
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, 92HD90BXX Analog
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, 92HD90BXX Analog
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, 92HD90BXX Analog
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, 92HD90BXX Analog
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=1
HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=2
HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
HDMI Audio Output
sysdefault:CARD=DEVICE
TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0
TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio
Front speakers
surround40:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0
TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0
TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0
TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0
TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0
TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0
TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio
IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
==============================
$ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 413c:8187 Dell Computer Corp. DW375 Bluetooth Module
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1bcf:2980 Sunplus Innovation Technology Inc.
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0644:8038 TEAC Corp.
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0a5c:5800 Broadcom Corp. BCM5880 Secure
Applications Processor
=======================================
$sudo lsusb -v -d0644:8038
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0644:8038 TEAC Corp.
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 2.00
bDeviceClass 239 Miscellaneous Device
bDeviceSubClass 2 ?
bDeviceProtocol 1 Interface Association
bMaxPacketSize0 64
idVendor 0x0644 TEAC Corp.
idProduct 0x8038
bcdDevice 0.03
iManufacturer 1 TEAC
iProduct 2 TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE
iSerial 0
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 220
bNumInterfaces 3
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0x80
(Bus Powered)
MaxPower 500mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 3 Human Interface Device
bInterfaceSubClass 0 No Subclass
bInterfaceProtocol 0 None
iInterface 0
HID Device Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 33
bcdHID 1.00
bCountryCode 0 Not supported
bNumDescriptors 1
bDescriptorType 34 Report
wDescriptorLength 26
Report Descriptors:
** UNAVAILABLE **
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 3
Transfer Type Interrupt
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0020 1x 32 bytes
bInterval 6
Interface Association:
bLength 8
bDescriptorType 11
bFirstInterface 2
bInterfaceCount 2
bFunctionClass 1 Audio
bFunctionSubClass 0
bFunctionProtocol 32
iFunction 4 TEAC USB HS ASYNC AUDIO DEVICE
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 2
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 0
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 1 Control Device
bInterfaceProtocol 32
iInterface 4 TEAC USB HS ASYNC AUDIO DEVICE
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (HEADER)
bcdADC 2.00
bCategory 10
wTotalLength 54
bmControl 0x00
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 8
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 10 (CLOCK_SOURCE)
bClockID 12
bmAttributes 0x07 Internal programmable Clock (synced to SOF)
bmControls 0x07
Clock Frequency Control (read/write)
Clock Validity Control (read-only)
bAssocTerminal 0
iClockSource 0
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 8
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 10 (CLOCK_SOURCE)
bClockID 13
bmAttributes 0x07 Internal programmable Clock (synced to SOF)
bmControls 0x07
Clock Frequency Control (read/write)
Clock Validity Control (read-only)
bAssocTerminal 0
iClockSource 0
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 17
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (INPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID 4
wTerminalType 0x0101 USB Streaming
bAssocTerminal 0
bCSourceID 12
bNrChannels 2
bmChannelConfig 0x00000003
Front Left (FL)
Front Right (FR)
bmControls 0x0000
iChannelNames 0
iTerminal 0
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 12
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 3 (OUTPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID 3
wTerminalType 0x0605 SPDIF interface
bAssocTerminal 0
bSourceID 4
bCSourceID 12
bmControls 0x0000
iTerminal 0
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 3
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 0
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 32
iInterface 0
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 3
bAlternateSetting 1
bNumEndpoints 2
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 32
iInterface 0
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 16
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (AS_GENERAL)
bTerminalLink 4
bmControls 0x00
bFormatType 1
bmFormats 1
PCM
bNrChannels 2
bmChannelConfig 0x00000003
Front Left (FL)
Front Right (FR)
iChannelNames 0
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 6
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
bFormatType 1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
bSubslotSize 2
bBitResolution 16
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x03 EP 3 OUT
bmAttributes 5
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type Asynchronous
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0068 1x 104 bytes
bInterval 1
AudioControl Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 8
bDescriptorType 37
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (EP_GENERAL)
bmAttributes 0x00
bmControls 0x00
bLockDelayUnits 2 Decoded PCM samples
wLockDelay 2
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x84 EP 4 IN
bmAttributes 17
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type None
Usage Type Feedback
wMaxPacketSize 0x0004 1x 4 bytes
bInterval 4
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 3
bAlternateSetting 2
bNumEndpoints 2
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 32
iInterface 0
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 16
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (AS_GENERAL)
bTerminalLink 4
bmControls 0x00
bFormatType 1
bmFormats 1
PCM
bNrChannels 2
bmChannelConfig 0x00000003
Front Left (FL)
Front Right (FR)
iChannelNames 0
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 6
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
bFormatType 1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
bSubslotSize 3
bBitResolution 24
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x03 EP 3 OUT
bmAttributes 5
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type Asynchronous
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x009c 1x 156 bytes
bInterval 1
AudioControl Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 8
bDescriptorType 37
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (EP_GENERAL)
bmAttributes 0x00
bmControls 0x00
bLockDelayUnits 2 Decoded PCM samples
wLockDelay 2
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x84 EP 4 IN
bmAttributes 17
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type None
Usage Type Feedback
wMaxPacketSize 0x0004 1x 4 bytes
bInterval 4
Device Qualifier (for other device speed):
bLength 10
bDescriptorType 6
bcdUSB 2.00
bDeviceClass 239 Miscellaneous Device
bDeviceSubClass 2 ?
bDeviceProtocol 1 Interface Association
bMaxPacketSize0 64
bNumConfigurations 1
Device Status: 0x0000
(Bus Powered)
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