Re: Ticks when playing to USB DAC at high sample rates

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On Fri 26 October 2012 21:47:05 Daniel Mack wrote:
> On 26.10.2012 21:43, Jeffrey Barish wrote:
> > On Thu 25 October 2012 19:10:45 Daniel Mack wrote:
> >> On 25.10.2012 17:18, Jeffrey Barish wrote:
> >>> I found something in the snd_usb_audio code (in endpoint.c) that could
> >>> explain one of the problems I have observed (the ticks). I would
> >>> normally test my theory by modifying the code. In this case, I would
> >>> like to stick in a print statement to see what values are being assigned
> >>> to certain variables. Unfortunately, I am too ignorant to do something
> >>> even this trivial as I have never worked on kernel code. I think I am
> >>> supposed to use printk,
> >> 
> >> printk is nice for simple debugging, yes. But note that this call is
> >> timing critical and should not be used in "fast path" code. Introducing
> >> a printk for each received packet for example will almost certainly make
> >> the driver behave quite differently.
> >> 
> >>> but beyond that I am lost. Can someone provide
> >>> me with some directions? I need to know how to make the driver. To that
> >>> end, I probably will have to install additional packages. After making
> >>> the driver, I need to know how to install it over the existing driver.
> >> 
> >> Here's one way to do it:
> >> 
> >> 1. git clone
> >> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git (your
> >> patch should apply on top of this tree eventually)
> >> 2. cd sound
> >> 3. zcat /proc/config.gz >.config
> >> 4. build and install the kernel image. How that is done depends on the
> >> distribution you're using. For Ubuntu follow the docs at [1] (start at
> >> point #5). For Fedora and others, something like "make && make install"
> >> should do
> >> 5. reboot and check that the new kernel is running
> >> 6. hack on sound/usb
> >> 7. make M=sound/usb
> >> 8. reload the module with "sudo rmmod snd_usb_audio; sudo insmod
> >> sound/usb/snd-usb-audio.ko" (better plug out the device before so you
> >> always have the same defined point of start)
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hope that works for you.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Daniel
> >> 
> >> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild
> > 
> > Your directions were almost perfect, so even I was able to build the
> > kernel. I made a discovery using the new kernel that might help someone
> > more familiar with the code than I am to localize the problem.  I am
> > still hearing the blip when I play audio sampled at 88.2 kHz, but I just
> > noticed that the blip is perfectly periodic, with a period of about 16.4
> > seconds.  I am playing a sine wave synthesized using GStreamer using the
> > following command:
> > 
> > gst-launch audiotestsrc volume=0.01 ! audio/x-raw-float, width=64,
> > rate=88200, channels=2, endianness=1234 ! audioconvert ! alsasink
> > 
> > A sine wave makes it easier to hear the blip.  Does this clue suggest
> > anything?
> > 
> > I also want to mention that when I use the new kernel, I do not get the
> > ticks at either 88.2 or 96 kHz even when I do not use the external USB
> > hub.  I plan next to back up to the 3.6.2 kernel to see whether I still
> > get ticks there.
> Which kernel did you use when you heard the 'blibs'?

The latest news is bad.  I am on 3.2.0 now.  The USB DAC is working perfectly 
at this moment at both 96 kHz and 88.2 kHz without the external USB hub 
(imagine calling that bad news).  If I set the srate to 88.2 kHz and stop and 
start the sine wave, sometimes I get the blip.  Forget about its being 
periodic.  It was definitely periodic before lunch; now I usually get random 
intervals if I get any blips at all.  As I am typing this message, I can't get 
blips at all.  There was some correlation between changing sample rates and 
blips, but I can't reproduce that behavior now.  What is most weird is that I 
haven't gotten any ticks since lunch with any kernel or with either sample 
rate, yet they were reliable earlier today unless I used the external USB hub.  
I obviously need to experiment some more to see whether I can observe a 
pattern.
-- 
Jeffrey Barish

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