Re: No sound! Ubuntu 8.10 and SI7012

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Hi Bill:

Finally got the laptop back.

I ran your first command and got the following:

brian@anna-laptop:~$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_intel8x0           37532  6
snd_ac97_codec        111652  1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus                9856  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm_oss            46848  0
snd_mixer_oss          22784  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm                83204  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy          10884  0
snd_seq_oss            38528  0
snd_seq_midi           14336  0
snd_rawmidi            29824  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event     15232  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq                57776  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer              29960  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device         15116  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd                    63268  22 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore              15328  1 snd
snd_page_alloc         16136  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
brian@anna-laptop:~$

Then I tried removing a couple of them and got the following errors:

brian@anna-laptop:~$ modprobe -r snd_intel8x0
FATAL: Module snd_intel8x0 is in use.
brian@anna-laptop:~$ modprobe -r snd_ac97_codec
FATAL: Module snd_ac97_codec is in use.
brian@anna-laptop:~$ modprobe -r snd_pcm_oss
FATAL: Error removing snd_pcm_oss (/lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/kernel/sound/core/oss/snd-pcm-oss.ko): Operation not permitted
brian@anna-laptop:~$


Do I need to remove them in any specific order?

Thanks!

Brian Harrington    
harrington01@xxxxxxxxx


--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Brian Harrington <harrington01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Brian Harrington <harrington01@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: No sound! Ubuntu 8.10 and SI7012
To: "Bill Unruh" <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 5:32 AM

Thanks Bill!!
 
I'll give it a try this evening and let you know how it goes.

Brian Harrington    
harrington01@xxxxxxxxx


--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Bill Unruh <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Bill Unruh <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: No sound! Ubuntu 8.10 and SI7012
To: "Brian Harrington" <harrington01@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 5:38 PM

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Brian Harrington wrote:

> Actually, I could probably call her and walk her through some diagnostics.
> Does the output suggest that I should be using a module other than the
intel8x0?
I am just a little bit surprized that an SI soundcard would use an Intel
driver. Now it might be a clone of some sort, or I quite probably might not
understand anything. which now that I google seems to be right. One suggestion
is to use the old oss sound support
unload all of the snd modules, and instead load i810_audio module

lsmod|grep snd
and unload them
modprobe -r snd-....
then
modprobe i810_audio
and see if sound now works.




>
> Thanks!
>
> Brian Harrington    
> harrington01@xxxxxxxxx
>
> --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Brian Harrington <harrington01@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> From: Brian Harrington <harrington01@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: No sound! Ubuntu 8.10 and SI7012
> To: "Bill Unruh" <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 5:49 AM
>
> Bill, I had to return the laptop to Anna for the week.
> I'll check in with you next weekend.
>
> Thank-you!
>
> Brian Harrington    
> harrington01@xxxxxxxxx
>
> --- On Sun, 1/11/09, Bill Unruh <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Bill Unruh <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: No sound! Ubuntu 8.10 and SI7012
> To: "Brian Harrington" <harrington01@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 5:29 PM
>
> I am still finding it strange that an SI soundcard is being run by the
> intel8x0 module.
>
> If
> you do
> rmmod snd-intel8x0
> modprobe snd-intel8x0
>
> and then look at the output in dmesg
> or look through dmesg for any mention of the intel8x0 module, do you see
any
> suggestive error messages?
>
>
> On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Brian Harrington wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill:
>>
>> Some additional information:
>>
>> I ran the alsa-info.sh script.
>> The url with the output is here:
>>  
> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=80b87eaae66080e1e151e62c857becb675d5fb62
>>
>> and I've also attached the output as a text file.
>>
>> Based on this information and the information at the Ubuntu Sound
Problem
> Solutions Guide (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449), I
loaded the
> also module with:
>>   sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
>>
>> Still no sound.
>>
>> Thanks again for your help!
>>
>> Brian Harrington    
>>
> harrington01@xxxxxxxxx
>>
>> --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Brian Harrington <harrington01@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> From: Brian Harrington <harrington01@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: No sound! Ubuntu 8.10 and SI7012
>> To: "Bill Unruh" <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 10:42 PM
>>
>> Okay.
>>
>> I just installed Linux Mint on my son's recommendation -- but
still no
> sound.
>>
>> Alsamixer shows every slider up and un-muted.
>>
>> Here are the results of lsmod:
>>
>> anna@anna-laptop ~ $ lsmod|grep snd
>> snd_intel8x0           37532  3
>> snd_ac97_codec        111652  1 snd_intel8x0
>>
> ac97_bus                9856  1 snd_ac97_codec
>> snd_pcm_oss            46848  0
>> snd_mixer_oss          22784  1 snd_pcm_oss
>> snd_pcm                83204  3
>> snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
>> snd_seq_dummy          10884  0
>> snd_seq_oss            38528  0
>> snd_seq_midi           14336  0
>> snd_rawmidi            29824  1 snd_seq_midi
>> snd_seq_midi_event     15232  2
> snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
>> snd_seq                57776  6
> snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
>> snd_timer              29960  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
>> snd_seq_device         15116  5
>> snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
>> snd                    63268  16
>
snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
>> soundcore              15328  1 snd
>> snd_page_alloc         16136  2
> snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
>>
>>
>> Brian Harrington    
>> harrington01@xxxxxxxxx
>>
>> --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Bill Unruh <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> From: Bill Unruh
>> <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: No sound! Ubuntu 8.10 and SI7012
>> To: "Brian Harrington" <harrington01@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 4:24 PM
>>
>> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009, Brian Harrington wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bill:
>>>
>>> This is a friend's laptop.
>>> She dorked up XP, and I installed Ubuntu over the top of it.
>>> So now I feel responsible for getting her a working system.
>>
>> OK, look at alsamixer in a terminal window and see if every slider is
up
> an
>> unmuted.
>> You do have something loaded.
>>
>> Also lsmod|grep snd
>>
> will show which modules are loaded.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help!
>>>
>>> anna@anna-laptop:~$ aplay -l
>>> **** PLAYBACK 硬體裝置清單 ****
>>> card 0: SI7012 [SiS SI7012], device 0: Intel ICH [SiS SI7012]
>>>   Subdevices: 1/1
>>>   Subdevice #0: subdevice
>> #0
>>>
>>> anna@anna-laptop:~$ aplay test.mp3
>>> Playing 原始資料 'test.mp3' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate
8000
> Hz,
>> Mono
>>>
>>> ...but no sound
>>> The results of lspci:
>>>
>>> 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems
[SiS]
>> AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
>>>
>>> The modprobe.d directory has an alsa-base file:
>>>
>>> anna@anna-laptop:/etc/modprobe.d$ more alsa-base
>>> # autoloader aliases
>>> install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe
> snd-card-0
>>> install sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1
>>> install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-2
>>> install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3
>>> install sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4
>>> install sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-5
>>> install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-6
>>> install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7
>>>
>>> # Cause optional modules to be
>> loaded above generic modules
>>> install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && {
>> /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-ioctl32 ; : ; }
>>> install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && {
>> /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq ; }
>>> install snd-pcm /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-pcm &&
{
>> /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-pcm-oss ; : ; }
>>> install snd-mixer /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-mixer
> &&
> {
>> /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-mixer-oss ; : ; }
>>> install snd-seq /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-seq &&
{
>> /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-midi ; /sbin/modpr
>>> obe --quiet snd-seq-oss ; : ; }
>>> install snd-rawmidi /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-rawmidi
> &&
>> { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-midi ; : ;
>>>  }
>>> # Cause optional modules to be loaded above sound card driver
modules
>>> install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install
>> snd-emu10k1
>> $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-emu1
>>> 0k1-synth ; }
>>> install snd-via82xx /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx
>> $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq
>>> ; }
>>>
>>> # Load saa7134-alsa instead of saa7134 (which gets dragged in by
it
>> anyway)
>>> install saa7134
> /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install saa7134 $CMDLINE_OPTS
>> && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb saa7134-alsa ; :
>>>  ; }
>>>
>>> # Load snd-seq for devices that don't have hardware midi;
>>> #   Ubuntu #26283, #43682, #56005; works around Ubuntu #34831
for
>>> #   non-Creative Labs PCI hardware
>>> install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && {
>> /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq ; }
>>> # Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0
>>> options bt87x index=-2
>>> options cx88_alsa index=-2
>>> options saa7134-alsa index=-2
>>> options
>> snd-atiixp-modem index=-2
>>> options snd-intel8x0m index=-0
>>> options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2
>>> options snd-usb-audio index=-2
>>> options snd-usb-usx2y index=-2
>>> options snd-usb-caiaq index=-2
>>> # Ubuntu #62691, enable MPU for
> snd-cmipci
>>> options snd-cmipci mpu_port=0x330 fm_port=0x388
>>> # Keep snd-pcsp from beeing loaded as first soundcard
>>> options snd-pcsp index=-2
>>> anna@anna-laptop:/etc/modprobe.d$
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian Harrington    
>>> harrington01@xxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Bill Unruh <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>>> From: Bill Unruh <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: Re: No sound! Ubuntu 8.10 and SI7012
>>> To: "Brian Harrington" <harrington01@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Cc: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 3:38 PM
>>>
>>> On Sat,
>> 10 Jan 2009, Brian Harrington wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good morning:
>>>>
>>>> I have a NEC Versa A2200 that I bought in Hong Kong in the
> summer
> of
>> 2007.
>>>> I recently dorked-up the Windows XP operating system and
decided
> to
>> run
>>> Ubuntu.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, the sound does not work.
>>>>
>>>> I've Googled the problem, visited the Ubuntu forums, but
> can't
>>> find an answer to my problem. 
>>>>
>>>> It looks like ALSA does not support the sound card.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone on the list offer any help?
>>>
>>> Now, exactly what kind of help? You tell us nothing about your
system
>> except
>>> that is some unit purchased in Hong Kong and it used to run
windows. I
>> could
>>> tell you to throw it away, but you would probably not find that
> helpful.
>>> (NEC seems to have abandoned it already-- it is 4 years old)
>>>
>>> If
>> however you were to tell us what kind of
> soundcard it had-- run
>>> lspci
>>> For example on my system reports for the audio
>>> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation
82801DB/DBL/DBM
>>> (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
>>>
>>> we might have a chance of figuring out what you have and giving
you
>> advice.
>>>
>>>
>>> Also show us what is in
>>> /etc/modprode.conf or in one of the /etc/modprobe.d/* files which
> might
>> have
>>> something to do with audio.
>>>
>>> Also if you run
>>> alsamixer
>>> in a terminal window, do you get anything? Are the sliders slid up
if
>> there is
>>> something.
>>>
>>> Finally, you could buy a usb sound card and use that instead.
There
> are
>> some
>>> pretty cheap ones and most tend to work with linux usb sound
> driver.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

--
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