I have sent a number of postings about problems installing ALSA. (I have gone 10 months without sound, etc. etc. ) For those have not noticed, I am talking about an ALSA install on a system that does not have ALSA as the default sound driver. That is why I can reinstall it after doing a kernel compile and install. Anything you do on a kernel that has ALSA as the default drivers, such as Linux 2.6, is not applicable to this situation. I have been trying to install ALSA 1.0.9, 1.0.16, and 1.0.17, on a Linux 2.4.31 system, where the default drivers are something unidentifiable (they do not identify themselves so I cannot tell if they are ALSA, OSS, or what). Because ALSA is a separate package outside the kernel, when the kernel installs its modules, it wipes the modules directory clean, including wiping out all the ALSA driver modules !! This is a business machine, and it will not be switching to Linux 2.6 until needed. I am especially not comforable with HAL, which judging by their changelogs and forums, is not being written to the same standards as the rest of Linux. They talk about adding delays to fix timing problems with other tasks. They refused a developer request to keep device identification info around after sending a closing notification (which prompts programs to deal with the device closing, thus the desktop cannot identify what actually closed ). They claim, by some philosophy, that the last thing done must be the closing notification, and that the device info must be destroyed before it to prevent any possible access to stale data. This is not good dynamic information systems design, nor good real-time programming practice. Currently, HAL is something that I do not want on my business machine, and it seems to come with Linux 2.6. I am staying with Linux 2.4.31 I would hope that the ALSA developers do not disregard us that have to stay with older versions of Linux. Wesley D. Johnson, Linux user since 1994 --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user