On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nigel Henry <cave.dnb2m97pp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Peter. Sorry none of my suggestions produced any positive results.On Friday 23 May 2008 00:27, Peter Westley wrote:
> Nigel,
>
> Thanks again for putting so much time into my problem! See comments inline.
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Nigel Henry <cave.dnb2m97pp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 May 2008 12:35, you wrote:
> > > Update:
> > >
> > > I removed the DVB-T card from the system and rebooted - same problem.
> > > System sees the card but the ALSA system doesn't recognise the codec
> > >
> > > <sigh> still looking.
> > >
> > > Peter
> >
> > Hi Peter. First of all it would be fair to say that there are horrible
> > problems with hda intel based cards, as they are setup differently on the
> > mobos of PC's/Laptops, depending on which machine you have. Laptops are
> > the worst, as your only alternative if you can't get the onboard hda
> > intel card to produce sounds, is to buy a USB, or pcmcia card. At least
> > with a PC, and aspare PCI slot you can buy a cheap, known Alsa supported
> > card, and get the sounds working.
> >
> > That said, you had sounds working when you had your Gutsy Gibbon
> > installed, so
> > at least you know the sounds worked with the hda intel card.
> >
> > You say that your not sure if the sounds stopped after installing the
> > server
> > version of Ubuntu GG, or after you'd installed HH 8.04. I spent a bit of
> > time
> > at the Ubuntu site looking at the server version, and the kernel. It did
> > say
> > the server kernel was somewhat different, but didn't say too much about
> > the differences. I don't know if there is some specific reason that you
> > need the
> > server kernel, but if not it may be worth installing the generic one, and
> > seeing if the sounds work ok with it.
> >
> > I'm a bit lost. Alsaconf is now deprecated, and no longer exists on GG.
> > You used to be able to run that command as root, and it would search for
> > soundcards, and if found set them up. I can't find anything on GG to
> > reconfigure the soundcard. All that running "asoundconf list " (no double
> > quotes)shows is soundcards that are already configured.
> >
> > There are a couple of things you could try to perhaps identify the
> > problem.
> >
> > First open konsole/terminal, and enter the following text.
> > sudo tail -f /var/log/messages
> > This should capture any problems when running the following stuff.
> >
> > Now open another instance of konsole/terminal, and run the following
> > command.
> > sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop
> > Followed by /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start
> > Any messages on the konsole running tail -f?
>
> I get:
> $ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop
> * Shutting down
> ALSA... * warning:
> 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1497: No
> soundcards found...'... [fail]
>
> Which is to be expected I guess...
>
> Then:
> $ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start
> * Setting up ALSA... [
> OK ]
>
> and in /var/log/messgaes:
> May 22 23:04:38 snoopy kernel: [97942.954373] ACPI: PCI Interrupt
> 0000:00:1b.0[A] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 23
> May 22 23:04:39 snoopy kernel: [97943.034189] ACPI: PCI interrupt for
> device 0000:00:1b.0 disabled
>
> Which is similar to what goes in dmesg when the system boots:
> >From demsg:
>
> [ 40.254047] ALSA /build/buildd/linux-ubuntu
> -modules-2.6.24-2.6.24/debian/build/build-server/sound/alsa
> -driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:1892:
> hda-intel: no codecs found!
> [ 40.254089] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:1b.0 disabled
>
> > Also check out cat /proc/asound/cards, to see if any cards have appeared.
> > if
> > so we may be getting somewhere, but if not try the next suggestion, as
> > below.
>
> Nothing appeared
>
> Leaving the konsole running tail -f open, on the other konsole do.
>
> > rmmod snd-hda-intel
> > This may need to be run as.
> > modprobe -r snd-hda-intel, if the rmmod command fails.
> >
> > Now run.
> > modprobe snd-hda-intel
> >
> > Check again any output from the other konsole running tail -f, and also
> > run.
> > cat /proc/asound/cards, which may show detected cards.
>
> Nothing from those commands in /var/log/messages
>
> Whatever output you get on the konsole/terminal that is running tail
>
> > -f /var/log/messages, please post it to myself, and to the alsa-user
> > list.
> >
> > Personally, and if you have a spare PCI slot, I'd have a look on E-bay
> > for an
> > Audigy2 soundblaster card (emu10k1), which is the one I have. I think
> > they can be picked up quite cheaply, and I know that this card works.
> > Just a suggestion.
>
> That's exactly what I would have done ages ago but sadly my stupid
> motherboard has only one PCI slot and that has the DVB-T card in it so
> sadly not an option.
>
> I will post to the alsa-dev group and see what they have to say.
>
> Peter
As regards your mobo with only one PCI slot. That has to be quite pathetic.
You used to be able to get mobo's with 5 PCI slots, and I've been hunting for
a new atx mobo, to put in a case that I've had for some time. I have found an
atx one with 3 PCI slots, and a couple pf PCI express ones, and am waiting
for it to arrive (Asus M2N-X Plus). Not too expensive 52.50 euros. It too may
have a dodgy onboard soundcard. It will be interesting to see if the sound
works when it arrives.
Yes, do post to the alsa-development list. I hope someone there can help you
to get the sounds back up and running.
Nigel.
Nigel,
The mobo was was my own stupid fault - I bought it in a hurry and didn't research properly! It does have two PCIe slots but there's precious little in PCIe that Linux seems to support at all yet.
I will probably go the mobo replacement path eventually (then my 15yo son can have this one - he's been bugging me for one for ages!)
I am going to try one more thing and that is to install a fresh Ubuntu desktop onto an external drive and just check that the sound comes up there...
Peter
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