Re: USB speakers: a suggestion

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Quote: "Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology and mass movement
that seeks to place the nation (defined in exclusive biological,
cultural, and historical terms) above all other loyalties." (Enlglish
Wikipedia)

Please explain how Windows Vista is fascist in any sort.


If "narrow-minded", "limited", "restricted" or "intolerant" is what you
think about Windows Vista, please explain how it is not "narrow-minded",
"limited", "restricted" or "intolerant" to expect from a simple user to
learn to program scripts and deal with things deep inside of the system
just in order to choose his default sound card.


Regards, Ingo Müller



Bill Unruh schrieb:
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Steve White wrote:
> 
>> Lee,
>>
>>> On 3/22/07, Steve White <stevan_white@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> * enter directly the ALSA HW address of the speakers in each application
>>>>    (for the few applications that support it) or
>>> File a bug against any application that does not let you select the sound
>>> card.
>>>
>>> No one would accept a network utility that only supported eth0...
>>>
>> I'm afraid I don't agree with this point, and don't accept the analogy.
>>
>> Most network utilities don't let you pick which hardware interface is to be
>> used for
> 
> But they do allow you to pick which IP address you are going to send stuff
> to.
> 
>> communication.  That is different from saying they only function with a
>> particular
>> interface.  The question is, who and what are responsible for the
>> determination of
>> which interface is to be used?
> 
> I would hope you are. Why in the world would you want a fascist operating
> system telling you which sound interface you have to use.
> 
> 
>> Likewise, many sound utilities assume that some other entity is responsible
>> for
>> picking the sound hardware.
> 
> Why would they assume that? That is a stupid assumption.
> 
> 
>> Although some users might want to send one sound stream to one sound card
>> and
>> another to a different card, for my purposes, I just want the sound to go to
>> the
>> *right* device.  At present, making ALSA do this is much more fiddly than I
>> would like.
> 
> You are the only one who knows what the "right" device is. Thus you are the
> one that should tell it
> 
>>>> * when the USB speakers are plugged in, all sound should immediatel to
>>>> them.
>>>>     (That's how it works on Windows and the Mac!)
>>> Immediately, as in, if you're playing an MP3 when you plug in the USB
>>> device the audio switches to it right away?  Or that any apps started after
>>> plugging the USB device use it by default?
>>>
>> I had to double-check.  In Windows Vista, one must re-start iTunes after
>> plugging in the USB speakers, before iTunes will send sound to them.
>>
>> So my suggestion would make ALSA behave at least as well as Vista (except
>> that
>> it has to be  configured once by hand).
> 
> This is a joke right? As well as? That is a totally fascist operating
> system in all respects.
> 
> 
>>>> My suggestion is, instead of this behavior, that ALSA use all the default
>>>> entries in the .asoundrc file, reading them in reverse order until it
>>>> finds working hardware.
>>> This is a good idea and I think it's been posted before...
>>>
>> OK then.  I'll check if it has been make an official feature request.
> 
> I still do not understand why writing a hotplug script is so horrible, if
> that is what you want it to do. That is where this kind of stuff belongs. 
> "I plug in X, When I plug in X I want Y to happen". That was what hotplug
> scripts were precisely designed to do.
>

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