Hi Peter! On 2007.02.18 at 16:13:46 +0100, Peter wrote next: > The problem is, I use lots of different software that plays sounds, including > software that only supports OSS (e.g. all old closed software like the loki > games, TeamSpeak 2....), and I have never managed to get my linux box to just > allow running these apps, and some music etc. all at once. This is a linux > problem, when using windows software mixing just "works", and nobody cares > (or even knows) if they own soundcards with hardware mixing capabilities. > Would the above be possible with jack? Or is my software use-case just far > from normal and nobody cares? No, jack isn't the solution that increases compatibility. Actually, it decreases it, since only apps that support jack directly work perfectly, the one that support only alsa /can/ be redirected to jack via alsa->jack wrapper, but it works only as long as they all behave good, once one of them exhibits any problem, all your music stalls (fortunately, since most of programs support either jack directly, or work though jack-enabled backend like gstreamer, pulseaudio, portaudio, this problem is quite rare). The purpose of jack is completely different. You can't use oss programs with jack, however you might get some luck with aoss wrapper. oss->aoss->alsa->jack is a horrible chain, and it doesn't work for me - YMMW. On the other hand, there is direct oss->jack wrapper: http://fort.xdas.com/~kor/oss2jack/, but I never tried it. When I started using jack, I suddently discovered that I don't have any oss-only application on my desktop; all the programs I ever used support alsa, or even jack. So don't blame linux or alsa, blame oss! Well, don't blame it if you use oss drivers, but if you using alsa, stay away from oss emulation and you'll be fine. As about your problem - believe it or not, it is the same in linux now! Most distros automatically configure dmix for you, and you shouldn't care how much hardware streams your card supports. Of course, all your apps must be alsa-enabled, but I don't think most people ever heard of oss-only apps nowadays. I don't know anything about teamspeak, but I heard that name a lot in jack or alsa context, so there should be some solution - try alsa wiki and google. As about games, well - wine supports jack output. Never actually tried using it, but it should work, I guess. Common wine alternative, crossover from codeweavers also has jack plugin. Not sure about the last alternative, cedega from transgaming, but probably it supports jack too.. Can't say anything about loki games, but.. aren't they VERY old? Do they ever work? I have Loki Demo CD with a few game demos on it, but it's about 7 years old, I really doubt it ever works with modern glibc/other components, not to mention x86-64 systems (and I don't have any legacy 32-bit x86 desktop around me to try it), and I heard that loki is out of business for a very long time. I won't argue with you that if you really need to run old loki games, there isn't any better solution that using creative card. On the other hand, I can't think of any other reason to use them, there are much better alternatives. -- Vladimir ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
