Re: Problems with snd hda intel: works only part of the time

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I'm using the alsa-driver-1.0.11 package as the alternative to the
inbuilt kernel modules.  According to this site:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml
I want CONFIG_SND off, since I am using the package.

   1.   CONFIG_SOUND is set. (Basic Sound support enabled)
   2. CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME is not set. (In-built OSS support disabled)
   3. CONFIG_SND is not set. (In-built ALSA support disabled)
   4. /usr/src/linux points to the kernel you want ALSA working on.

Either way, I get the same behavior if I go with alsa-driver-1.0.11 or
if I turn on the inbuilt ALSA module.  However, for debugging
purposes, I have chosen to go with the alsa-driver package (1.0.11 in
this case, see my previous emails on why 1.0.11 rather than 1.0.13)
rather than the inbuilt kernel modules.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume I SHOULD NOT have CONFIG_SND set
if I am using the alsa-driver package?

Peter

On 10/5/06, Bill Unruh <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Peter Hartman wrote:
>
> > There is nothing else in lsmod except my ipw3945 wireless.
> >
> > The kernel, of course, has CONFIG_SOUND on but CONFIG_SND and
> > CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME off.
>
> CONFIG_SND should be m, for modules. You WANT alsa support.
>
> >
> > I put that in my blacklist regardless, but I don't think that is the issue.
> > On 10/5/06, Bill Unruh <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Peter Hartman wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Dominique:
> >> >
> >> > 1) hotplug isn't running.
> >>
> >> If you have udev, hotplug is always running. And udev is the standard these
> >> days.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > 2) A little more clarification: when I run alsamixer (on the occasions
> >> > when it works) it only shows the Master; but on the occasions when it
> >> > stops working, a mysterious "SPDIF" setting is available (with the
> >> > Master as well).
> >>
> >> Sounds like two different sound cards are in contention.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > 3) If I run /etc/init.d/alsasound restart on a bootup when it
> >> > works--it will go from working to not working.  But, randomly, it will
> >> > start to work again only on a
> >> > reboot.
> >> >
> >> > 4) I am now using vanilla gentoo 1.0.11 alsa-driver and alsa-utils for
> >> > testing with you.  With 1.0.13 (gentoo), I get a different error, but
> >> > with 1.0.13 compiled by hand, it has the same effect.  Besides, it
> >> > WORKS atleast once in a while with 1.0.11, so I figured I'd stick with
> >> > the vanilla gentoo, until I need to move beyond.
> >> >
> >> > 5) here is my lsmod:
> >> >
> >> > snd_pcm_oss            31328  0
> >> > snd_mixer_oss          13888  1 snd_pcm_oss
> >> > snd_seq_oss            26624  0
> >> > snd_seq_device          5384  1 snd_seq_oss
> >> > snd_seq_midi_event      5504  1 snd_seq_oss
> >> > snd_seq                41072  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
> >> > snd_hda_intel          12884  0
> >> > snd_hda_codec         123008  1 snd_hda_intel
> >> > snd_pcm                62788  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
> >> > snd_timer              16004  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
> >> > snd                    39332  9
> >> >
> >> snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_device,snd_seq,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
> >> > snd_page_alloc          6856  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
> >>
> >> That is not lsmod, but I assume it is all of the entries which start with
> >> snd. ARe there perhaps some old oss modules being loaded as well?
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > (Unfortunately, this is lsmod on a broken sound bootup; I didn't get
> >> > a chance to lsmod on a working sound setting -- even though the
> >> > /etc/modules.d/alsa remain the same between the two.)
> >> >
> >> > On 10/5/06, Dominique Michel <dominique.michel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> If you want to use the alsa-driver packages with gentoo, you must not
> >> have alsa
> >> >> compiled with the driver. See
> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Le Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:09:44 -0500,
> >> >> "Peter Hartman" <peterjohnhartman@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I've had quite a headache with the snd hda intel driver.  Below is my
> >> >>> lspci.  I am using GENTOO (latest) on a brand new Gateway MX6920
> >> >>> Laptop.  With alsa-utils-1.0.11 and 2.6.17-gentoo-r8 with
> >> >>> SND_HDA_INTEL compiled in AS A MODULE (It did not work compiled in
> >> >>> directly to the kernel; nor did it work with alsa-driver-1.0.11--by
> >> >>> "did not work" I mean everything ran fine, but no sound came out--) it
> >> >>> worked every few reboots; in other words, it was very random.  The
> >> >>> curious thing about "alsamixer"--when it worked it only presented one
> >> >>> control option (Master), whereas when it didn't work there were two or
> >> >>> more controls.
> >> >>>
> >> >> It can be the case if you have an USB sound card as a webcam. The
> >> >> snd_usb_audio will be loaded by hotplug before at alsasound load the
> >> alsa
> >> >> modules, and the regular sound card will be the second sound card.
> >> >>
> >> >> If it is the case, you have to add
> >> >> "snd-usb-audio" (without the double quotes) in /etc/udev/blacklist and
> >> alsasound
> >> >> will work as expected.
> >> >>
> >> >> If it not solve the problem, what is the output of
> >> >>
> >> >> lsmod|grep snd
> >> >>
> >> >> Dominique
> >> >>
> >> >>> I also tried: (a) compiling alsa-utils-1.0.13 and alsa-driver-1.0.13
> >> >>> (and alsa-lib and alsa-header) directly from alsa-sound.org.  But then
> >> >>> I get an ioctl error or other strange errors (it sometimes crashes,
> >> >>> sometimes (e.g., mplayer) will say that the sndcard isn't fast enough,
> >> >>> sometimes (madplay) an ioctl error).  So I tried (b) emerging the
> >> >>> 1.0.13 ebuilds of alsa stuff.  Ditto error message.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> So, in summary, only the MODULE version of snd hda intel worked
> >> >>> (kernel 2.6.17-gentoo-r8).  But it only worked every few (random)
> >> >>> reboots; when it worked, it worked fine.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If you want more information, please let me know!
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> lspci -v
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
> >> >>> Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
> >> >>>         Subsystem: Gateway 2000 Unknown device 0366
> >> >>>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 21
> >> >>>         Memory at d8240000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+
> >> >>> Queue=0/0 Enable-
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [70] Express Unknown type IRQ 0
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [130] Unknown (5)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express
> >> >>> Port 1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
> >> >>>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
> >> >>>         Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0
> >> >>>         I/O behind bridge: 00002000-00002fff
> >> >>>         Memory behind bridge: d4000000-d5ffffff
> >> >>>         Prefetchable memory behind bridge:
> >> 00000000d0000000-00000000d1f00000
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [80] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit-
> >> >>> Queue=0/0 Enable-
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [90] #0d [0000]
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [180] Unknown (5)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express
> >> >>> Port 2 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
> >> >>>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
> >> >>>         Bus: primary=00, secondary=03, subordinate=03, sec-latency=0
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>         I/O behind bridge: 00003000-00003fff
> >> >>>         Memory behind bridge: d6000000-d7ffffff
> >> >>>         Prefetchable memory behind bridge:
> >> 00000000d2000000-00000000d3f00000
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [80] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit-
> >> >>> Queue=0/0 Enable-
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [90] #0d [0000]
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [180] Unknown (5)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB
> >> >>> UHCI #1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
> >> >>>         Subsystem: Gateway 2000 Unknown device 0366
> >> >>>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 20
> >> >>>         I/O ports at 1820 [size=32]
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB
> >> >>> UHCI #2 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
> >> >>>         Subsystem: Gateway 2000 Unknown device 0366
> >> >>>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
> >> >>>         I/O ports at 1840 [size=32]
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB
> >> >>> UHCI #3 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
> >> >>>         Subsystem: Gateway 2000 Unknown device 0366
> >> >>>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
> >> >>>         I/O ports at 1860 [size=32]
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB
> >> >>> UHCI #4 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
> >> >>>         Subsystem: Gateway 2000 Unknown device 0366
> >> >>>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
> >> >>>         I/O ports at 1880 [size=32]
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2
> >> >>> EHCI Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
> >> >>>         Subsystem: Gateway 2000 Unknown device 0366
> >> >>>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 20
> >> >>>         Memory at d8444000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [58] Debug port
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2)
> >> >>> (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode])
> >> >>>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
> >> >>>         Bus: primary=00, secondary=04, subordinate=05, sec-latency=32
> >> >>>         I/O behind bridge: 00004000-00004fff
> >> >>>         Memory behind bridge: d8000000-d80fffff
> >> >>>         Prefetchable memory behind bridge:
> >> 0000000050000000-0000000051f00000
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [50] #0d [0000]
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface
> >> >>> Bridge (rev 02)
> >> >>>         Subsystem: Gateway 2000 Unknown device 0366
> >> >>>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [e0] Vendor Specific Information
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE
> >> >>> Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
> >> >>>         Subsystem: Gateway 2000 Unknown device 0366
> >> >>>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
> >> >>>         I/O ports at <unassigned>
> >> >>>         I/O ports at <unassigned>
> >> >>>         I/O ports at <unassigned>
> >> >>>         I/O ports at <unassigned>
> >> >>>         I/O ports at 1810 [size=16]
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family)
> >> >>> Serial ATA Storage Controller AHCI (rev 02) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
> >> >>>         Subsystem: Gateway 2000 Unknown device 0366
> >> >>>         Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
> >> >>>         I/O ports at 18d0 [size=8]
> >> >>>         I/O ports at 18c4 [size=4]
> >> >>>         I/O ports at 18c8 [size=8]
> >> >>>         I/O ports at 18c0 [size=4]
> >> >>>         I/O ports at 18b0 [size=16]
> >> >>>         Memory at d8444400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [80] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit-
> >> >>> Queue=0/0 Enable-
> >> >>>         Capabilities: [70] Power Management version 2
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller
> >> (rev
> >> >>> 02) Subsystem: Gateway 2000 Unknown device 0366
> >> >>>         Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10
> >> >>>         I/O ports at 18e0 [size=32]
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Dominique Michel
> >> >>
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