Rich-- As I mentioned on IRC, I got about 90% of the way through the SSL setup before my deadline hit and I had to go live without SSL fully working. My machines are all listening on port 636, but don't do SSL properly. As far as I can tell/remember, I provisioned the boxes identically, so they all should be equally far along in the SSL-enabling process, but only one of them demonstrated the permissions problem. I guess you did say, though, that the problem _only_ happens to SSL-enabled machines, not that it _always_ happens to SSL-enabled machines. Still, hope this helps you root out the problem. Good luck! Chris St. Pierre Unix Systems Administrator Nebraska Wesleyan University On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, Richard Megginson wrote: > It appears that the permission problem only happens with servers that were > configured to use SSL in fds102 and upgraded to fds103. Can anyone confirm the > problem occurred in a system not using SSL? >