On 11/08/2013 04:03 PM, Ben Myers wrote: > Hey Ric, > > On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 03:50:21PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote: >> On 11/08/2013 03:46 PM, Ben Myers wrote: >>> Hey Christoph, >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 11:34:24AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote: >>>> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:03:37PM -0600, Ben Myers wrote: >>>>> Mark is replacing Alex as my backup because Alex is really busy at >>>>> Linaro and asked to be taken off awhile ago. The holiday season is >>>>> coming up and I fully intend to go off my meds, turn in to Fonzy the >>>>> bear, and eat my hat. I need someone to watch the shop while I'm off >>>>> exploring on Mars. I trust Mark to do that because he is totally >>>>> awesome. >>>> >>>> Doing this as an unilateral decisions is not something that will win you >>>> a fan base. >>> It's posted for review. >>> >>>> While we never had anything reassembling a democracy in Linux Kernel >>>> development making decisions without even contacting the major >>>> contributor is wrong, twice so if the maintainer is a relatively minor >>>> contributor to start with. >>>> >>>> Just because it recent came up elsewhere I'd like to recite the >>>> definition from Trond here again: >>>> >>>> http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-2012-discuss/2012-June/000066.html >>>> >>>> By many of the creative roles enlisted there it's clear that Dave should >>>> be the maintainer. He's been the main contributor and chief architect >>>> for XFS for many year, while the maintainers came and went at the mercy >>>> of SGI. This is not meant to bad mouth either of you as I think you're >>>> doing a reasonably good job compared to other maintainers, but at the >>>> same time the direction is set by other people that have a much longer >>>> involvement with the project, and having them officially in control >>>> would help us forward a lot. It would also avoid having to spend >>>> considerable resources to train every new generation of SGI maintainer. >>>> >>>> Coming to and end I would like to maintain Dave Chinner as the primary >>>> XFS maintainer for all the work he has done as biggest contributor and >>>> architect of XFS since longer than I can remember, and I would love to >>>> retain Ben Myers as a co-maintainer for all the good work he has done >>>> maintaining and reviewing patches since November 2011. >>> I think we're doing a decent job too. So thanks for that much at least. ;) >>>> I would also like to use this post as a public venue to condemn the >>>> unilateral smokey backroom decisions about XFS maintainership that SGI is >>>> trying to enforce on the community. >>> That really didn't happen Christoph. It's not in my tree or in a pull request. >>> >>> Linus, let me know what you want to do. I do think we're doing a fair job over >>> here, and (geez) I'm just trying to add Mark as my backup since Alex is too >>> busy. I know the RH people want more control, and that's understandable, but >>> they really don't need to replace me to get their code in. Ouch. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ben >> >> Christoph is not a Red Hat person. >> >> Jeff is from Oracle. >> >> This is not a Red Hat vs SGI thing, > > Sorry if my read on that was wrong. > >> Dave simply has earned the right >> to take on the formal leadership role of maintainer. > > Then we're gonna need some Reviewed-bys. ;) > > From: Ben Myers <bpm@xxxxxxx> > > xfs: update maintainers > > Add Dave as maintainer of XFS. Just so everybody knows I'm cool with this... Reviewed by: Alex Elder <elder@xxxxxxxxxx> (Or Signed-off-by if that's appropriate.) -Alex > Signed-off-by: Ben Myers <bpm@xxxxxxx> > --- > MAINTAINERS | 2 +- > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) > > Index: b/MAINTAINERS > =================================================================== > --- a/MAINTAINERS 2013-11-08 15:20:18.935186245 -0600 > +++ b/MAINTAINERS 2013-11-08 15:22:50.685245977 -0600 > @@ -9387,8 +9387,8 @@ F: drivers/xen/*swiotlb* > > XFS FILESYSTEM > P: Silicon Graphics Inc > +M: Dave Chinner <dchinner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > M: Ben Myers <bpm@xxxxxxx> > -M: Alex Elder <elder@xxxxxxxxxx> > M: xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx > L: xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx > W: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs > > _______________________________________________ > xfs mailing list > xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx > http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs > _______________________________________________ xfs mailing list xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs